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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Death of Convoy PQ-17( 6/27 - 7/28, 1942) - June 29th, 2005
World War II Magazine | Raymond A. Denkhaus

Posted on 06/29/2005 3:03:31 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: U S Army EOD
Can you imagine sailors acting like that.

Uncouth sailors?!?!?!? No Way!!!

41 posted on 06/29/2005 7:29:19 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Why are there no size B batteries? (G. Carlin))
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To: Professional Engineer

Saw that video the other day when I was researching the F-4 thread. Cool!!


42 posted on 06/29/2005 7:30:06 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Why are there no size B batteries? (G. Carlin))
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To: SAMWolf

I have never fully understood why they didn't try to supply the Russians across the Pacific. They could have Russian flagged the vessels after December, 1941. Since Russia was a neutral as to the Japanese, they should have been able to pass freely. It would have been a longer voyage than the North Atlantic, but once they got to the Russian ports, the equipment could have been put on trains to the west.


43 posted on 06/29/2005 7:43:10 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: SAMWolf
"Campaign ribbons were awarded for service in almost every other theater of the war, but not one was awarded for service in the Arctic."

That's something that should be corrected, there must be a few survivors of this theater still with us.

44 posted on 06/29/2005 7:44:06 AM PDT by bvw
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To: alfa6
Chopsticks make very good donut turning sticks

I will be using wooden sticks! First day on the job wasn't so bad. Had trouble getting any sleep, afraid I would miss my 2 a.m. alarm. Got about 2 hours sleep, went into work at 2:45, off at 7 a.m., change of clothes then it was my task today to be the "door greeter" at our weekly chamber meeting. Look cheery and greet everyone. Zzzzzzzzz. I managed to stay awake. Sam has to pick up his sister at the airport around noon and once he returns I think I'll try to catch some zzzzzzz's.

I've got the donut making down, but still confused on the bagels and breads processing.

45 posted on 06/29/2005 9:29:27 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf

LOL.


46 posted on 06/29/2005 9:30:19 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

((Hugs)) EGC. I'm tired today, first day of my new part-time job at the local grocery in their bakery dept.


47 posted on 06/29/2005 9:31:35 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: PAR35

There's a little problem with supplying Russia over the Pacific. It's called Siberia, a vast, trackless steppe with no roads, and the only way to transport materiel from say Kamchatka to the front is by air. Not practical, especially during WWII.


48 posted on 06/29/2005 9:36:48 AM PDT by Don W (Whatever has form-man or machine-has mortality. It is only a matter of time)
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To: SAMWolf
(Why are there no size B batteries? (G. Carlin))

Not much call for 90 volt, IIRC, batteries these days.

49 posted on 06/29/2005 10:16:11 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Got Flag?)
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather


50 posted on 06/29/2005 10:17:08 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Got Flag?)
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To: Valin
1858 George Washington Goethals engineer (built Panama Canal)

Bloody Engineers! Forever tearing apart the natural world. Leave the poor birds, toads and snail darters alone.

Please excuse me, I have to get back to the details of a 7,000 amp/3 phase residential electric service.

51 posted on 06/29/2005 10:20:43 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Got Flag?)
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To: Valin
1919 Slim Pickens Kingsburg Calif, actor (Dr Strangelove, Blazing Saddles)


52 posted on 06/29/2005 10:23:54 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Got Flag?)
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To: Valin
Amateur Radio Week (Day 3)

CQ CQ CQ...

53 posted on 06/29/2005 10:29:03 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Got Flag?)
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To: snippy_about_it
I'm tired today, first day of my new part-time job at the local grocery in their bakery dept.

Whoa, did I miss a Bird R Us announcement somewhere?

54 posted on 06/29/2005 10:31:44 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Got Flag?)
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To: Professional Engineer

I know what you mean. Why can't we go back to the Pliocene age when we walked lightly upon the earth and were at one with our mother the earth and our friends on the forest floor?


55 posted on 06/29/2005 10:35:45 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Professional Engineer
LOL. Have no fear, the Sam and Snippy store is doing well, however, snippy is now a capitalist pig and pays for her own insurance, ouch.

I decided to take on a part time job so I could work for that insurance and some extra $. The grocery store we are next to let me have a job frying donuts in their bakery. Now we'll see how long I can hold out!

56 posted on 06/29/2005 10:51:34 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Don W
It's called Siberia, a vast, trackless steppe with no roads, and the only way to transport materiel from say Kamchatka to the front is by air. Not practical, especially during WWII.

The Trans-Siberian Railroad runs (and at that time ran) from the Pacific port of Vladivostok to Moscow. Of course, Russian trains use a wider gauge than most Western countries, so it is even easier to transport bulky material like tanks.

57 posted on 06/29/2005 10:55:00 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Great post today. Those merchant seamen sure braved a lot to deliver the goods, even stupid high commanders.

Logistics was so important to the war effort, especially for an island nation like Britain. When I toured Churchill's WWII bunker I saw his situation room, where with the maps showing all the fronts, there was also a map showing the location of each convoy and a chart showing shipping sunk and shipping produced. It got pretty dicey for Britain early in the war.

58 posted on 06/29/2005 11:56:58 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: snippy_about_it
LOL. Have no fear, the Sam and Snippy store is doing well, however, snippy is now a capitalist pig and pays for her own insurance, ouch.

Ahso. My last employer didn't have maternity coverage available, at any price. Miss BittyGirl was on the way. Msdrby was still covered by a Texas teacher insurance plan, but her eligibility would end shortly, mere days, after BG was due. My brow sweated slightly those days.

59 posted on 06/29/2005 12:00:54 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Got Flag?)
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To: snippy_about_it; Professional Engineer
The grocery store we are next to let me have a job frying donuts in their bakery.

We are going to expect fresh pastries every morning in the foxhole. :^)

60 posted on 06/29/2005 2:24:44 PM PDT by Samwise (In the battle between good and evil, evil often wins unless good is very, very careful.)
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