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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - Kursk-Largest Tank Battle Ever?(Jul 1943)-Mar. 29th, 2005
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Posted on 03/28/2005 9:45:36 PM PST by SAMWolf

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To: PzLdr; SAMWolf
The only HS-129 pic I have, it is a "B" model with the Ghnome Rhone engines and I believe a 75mm cannon in the nose.

From...http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/hs129.html

Hs 129B-2 Series: Two 13mm MG 131 Machine Guns in nose. Two 20mm MG 151/20 cannon in nose. Various weapons were fitted inclusding 37mm BK 3.7 and 75mm BK 7.5. An interesting weapon was a battery of six 75mm smoothbore recoiless rifles that fired downawrds and to the rear. This system was fired by an automatic magnetic trigger that fired when the aircraft flew over metal objects. This system was reported to be quite successful.

Back to work I must go, hoping to finish hanging the sheetrock today, finally.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

101 posted on 03/29/2005 10:41:19 AM PST by alfa6 (Memebr loyal order of F.O.G.)
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To: Mudboy Slim
This business has been going on since long before the British were expelled.

Every power group has the ability to defend it's power or it would have been eaten already. Power is the key here, people like money to spend, and powerful people like money too. And the powerful get what they want, which is what power means.

Generally the balance of power is not chaotic, and power groups apportion the spoils fairly stably. Those on the outs are always angry and call for "justice".

So, we are on the outs, and call for justice, an end to illegal aliens resident amongst us, an end to the constant plundering of our substance by the powerful, a return to Constitutional Government, and end to government usurpation, etc.

Was really very recently that our power group, call them the "Old Americans", dominated US politics. What we call "Liberalism" or "Modernism" or "vile depravity" or "the Left"are those groups that have taken dominant control of American life.

Changing a few laws will not change things. Laws are only a concern of the weak. Look at Clinton or Ebbers or, soon, Lay. Immune one day, sometimes not immune the next. Except Clinton, that creep. Remember Leona Helmsley's "Taxes are for the little people." And, of course, she was correct, though she didn't realize that the real Big Boys don't like parvenues.

What can work is neutralizing the Left, that is, destroying it's power.

So what is to be done? How to bell the cat?

Games of power get rough, as Lenin said, "Power means troops", or Mao's "Power comes from the muzzle of a gun." (A bit of a poet, Mao was, at least in his own mind!) In any case, we are talking about serious instability here.

President Bush is on track, looking to do what is possible by playing a long term game, and doing very well at it. The American Stalin is still on the horizon, but is taking some good lumps.

As Churchill put it, "Jaw - Jaw is better than War - War." Time to stick to the Jaw - Jaw.

102 posted on 03/29/2005 11:40:35 AM PST by Iris7 (A man said, "That's heroism." "No, that's Duty," replied Roy Benavides, Medal of Honor.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Hi

Have been back posting FR just recently..
Or as they say in SG1...."Just gated in" : )

Saturday was a bit frustrating....the USS Laffey thread.

USS Isherwood,USS Pringle are also part of the radar picket heroism struggle from April 16th 1945.
so ya....would like others to know what else occured.....but then theirs the vanity side of it which I still feel kinda uncomfortable about : )

Jumping over to Hans Rudel....*Operation Citadel.
Its good to see the many forwards out which show that Germany had...A victory missed.

Russia pushing its tanks in close at least minimized the carange that Hans Rudel and company could do if they caught them in logistic movement.
Russia's going to loose their tanks wholesale anyway...might aswell make the sacrifice worth it.

Historically...such dramatics do change outcomes.
Israels airforce certainly hurled itself on Egypts sword of Russian SAM missiles.
IDF armor platoons ..outnumbered 7-1 and greater did the same in Sinai and Golan in the 73 war.
Like the Battle of Britian,
The many owe much to the sacrifice of the few.

To bad for Russia that they stumbled back under the shadow of evil.
They showed they had the right stuff at Kursk......at Stalingrad.

103 posted on 03/29/2005 11:46:34 AM PST by Light Speed
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To: Iris7
"What can work is neutralizing the Left, that is, destroying it's power. So what is to be done? How to bell the cat?"

Well, the Left's Power is based in the ever-expanding Federal Leviathan, so if we can enforce the 9th and 10th Amendments, and begin the long-term process of devolving Power to the States, Localities, and Individuals, the Left will gradually implode, and it will take the DemonRAT Party with it!!

FReegards...MUD

104 posted on 03/29/2005 11:55:42 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (The Culture War shall be won by those RightWingers who choose to fight it!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Take care, Slim.

The Ninth and Tenth (and the Second, and the First) are always worth defending at any cost whatever. Even when you don't win you can really P.O. those bastards.

Guys like me, and I think the President, (and you), are in this fight for the long haul. What is important is Victory, whatever the cost, no matter how long it takes. Got to preserve our assets and go for unconditional surrender.
105 posted on 03/29/2005 1:33:48 PM PST by Iris7 (A man said, "That's heroism." "No, that's Duty," replied Roy Benavides, Medal of Honor.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

More illness. Grrr.

Colonel, you are going to have to move to a warmer, sunnier climate!

Hope you are all well soon.


106 posted on 03/29/2005 1:47:07 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Mudboy Slim
we've got the opportunity to make it right in the next 3.5 years, though

I sure hope so, it's just not enough to say "It'd be worse under the other Party", I was voting for something, not against something.

107 posted on 03/29/2005 1:51:33 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #10 - Tax and spend often.)
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To: Valin

Why he's still breathing is beyond me.


108 posted on 03/29/2005 1:52:29 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #10 - Tax and spend often.)
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To: snippy_about_it; Professional Engineer
We could really use that.

So it's ok to get a blonde? ;-)

109 posted on 03/29/2005 1:53:35 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #10 - Tax and spend often.)
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To: The Mayor

Thanks for the update Mayor.


110 posted on 03/29/2005 1:54:03 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #10 - Tax and spend often.)
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To: msdrby

Good afternoon! We had a wonderful Easter. Spent most of the day boxing up stuff to carry back to store in Waco. I am tired and just getting ready to walk out the door to work tonight.

Myranda is flying out next Tuesday to go spend a month in Alabama with Jill. Tom is TDY 27 days out of April and Jill could use the help. Myranda is waiting for summer semester to start so she can get back in school so this works out about perfect. :-) (until then, I have a helper)


111 posted on 03/29/2005 1:57:59 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: Colonel_Flagg
More illness in my family - the kids and I have been flat on our backs all weekend and I missed work yesterday

:-(

I believe Soviet losses were a lot higher than originally reported, but in the long run they could replace them. Could the Germans have won? I doubt it, they were bogged down in the North and even if they did manage to cut of the salient, I don't think they could have prevented the Soviets from breaking out from or into the pocket. They just didn't have the strength anymore.

112 posted on 03/29/2005 1:58:21 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #10 - Tax and spend often.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Sadly only about half my students ever grasp the use of the scale. They get that thrown in their first semester and then are thrown into CAD. They worry more about setting PLTSCALE nowdays.


113 posted on 03/29/2005 1:59:37 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: Grzegorz 246
Afternoon Grzegorz 246


114 posted on 03/29/2005 2:01:22 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #10 - Tax and spend often.)
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To: Light Speed

It's good to see ya back. :-)


115 posted on 03/29/2005 2:05:00 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #10 - Tax and spend often.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
So it's ok to get a blonde? ;-)

You first. I'll watch to see what happens.

116 posted on 03/29/2005 2:29:45 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you angered a muslim today?)
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To: Wneighbor
They worry more about setting PLTSCALE nowdays.

Whatever it needs to be, the approved company drawing template will be set opposite.

117 posted on 03/29/2005 2:31:04 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have you angered a muslim today?)
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To: SAMWolf; Corin Stormhands; Flora McDonald; iceskater; P8riot; Nick The Freeper; jla; AdSimp; x
"...it's just not enough to say "It'd be worse under the other Party", I was voting for something, not against something"

Yep...and "The Future [fer the GOP] is NOW!!"**

FReegards...MUD

**...George Allen's campaign theme fer 2008, BTW!!

118 posted on 03/29/2005 2:51:28 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (The Culture War shall be won by those RightWingers who choose to fight it!!)
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To: Iris7
"Guys like me, and I think the President, (and you), are in this fight for the long haul. What is important is Victory, whatever the cost, no matter how long it takes."

I couldn't agree more, my FRiend...I'm 41 now and dammit if I ain't gonna do what I can to leave my grandkids with AT LEAST as good a world as I was born into.

FReegards...MUD

119 posted on 03/29/2005 2:54:05 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (The Culture War shall be won by those RightWingers who choose to fight it!!)
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To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf
You first. I'll watch to see what happens.

LOL. I guarantee you it won't be pretty.

120 posted on 03/29/2005 3:22:29 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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