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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Thankgiving "Over There" - Nov .25th, 2004
www.pilgrimhall.org ^ | Peggy M. Baker, Director & Librarian, Pilgrim Society.

Posted on 11/25/2004 7:11:01 AM PST by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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Thankgiving "Over There"
The Story of Thanksgiving
and
America’s Armed Forces.


The first national annual Thanksgiving was proclaimed in 1863 by Abraham Lincoln. Amid the wrenching strife of the Civil War, the tradition of a national holiday centered on home and family and peace was established.



From that first Civil War Thanksgiving to today, sometimes against overwhelming odds, Americans have always found a way to celebrate Thanksgiving. Troops "over there" forged new families with their comrades. Families back home endured fear and loneliness with grace and courage, in hope for the future. During peacetime, special efforts are made so that American armed forces stationed away from home have a traditional "family" celebration.

The Civil War


The dispute over slavery, as well as rivalry between northern industrial and southern agrarian economies, divided the United States in the mid 1800s. Hostilities began in 1861, shortly after the election of Abraham Lincoln, an Illinois Republican, as President.

Early Confederate successes on land were balanced by a Union naval blockade of southern ports. The war did not turn until 1863 when Lee was defeated at Gettysburg. It took another two years of bloody warfare to establish final Union victory. The cease-fire was signed in May of 1865, one month after Lincoln was assassinated. Before its conclusion, 3/4 of a million men had died and another 1/2 million were wounded. Three million men had served in the Union forces and 750,000 in the Confederate forces. No American family escaped this disastrous conflict.



During the Civil War, rations for the Union troops were ample.

Some foods were not, however, available in the field. Even when full rations were provided, they were not nutritious or appetizing : a diet of hardtack, salt meat and no vegetables quickly leads to scurvy.

The food needs of the armed forces were enormous. The scale of purchasing gave plentiful chances for swindling. The defects of the system lay primarily, however, in unsupervised or inexperienced contractors and supply officers. Canned foods, an economical and reliable source of nutrition, were first used during the Civil War. Condensed milk, invented by Gail Borden in 1856, was occasionally available as were desiccated (or in the language of the troops, "desecrated") fruits and vegetables.

The first national annual Thanksgiving of 1863 was not officially observed by the United States military. Providing a special Thanksgiving dinner for the troops was beyond the capabilities of the Commissary.

Individual units, however, particularly those with New England roots, did find their own unofficial ways to celebrate the day.

Special dinners were organized, and toasts to absent family and friends were drunk.



Thanksgiving 1864 did not go similarly unrecognized. The Union League Club of New York City launched a public campaign to provide Thanksgiving dinner for Union soldiers and sailors :

We desire that on the twenty-fourth day of November there shall be no soldier in the Army of the Potomac, the James, the Shenandoah, and no sailor in the North Atlantic Squadron who does not receive tangible evidence that those for whom he is periling his life, remember him...

We ask primarily for donations of cooked poultry and other proper meats, as well as for mince pies, sausages and fruits... To those who are unable to send donations in kind, we appeal for generous contributions in money.


The response was overwhelming. In 3 weeks, the Club collected over $57,000 towards the purchase of 146,586 pounds of poultry. Donations of an additional 225,000 pounds of poultry were received, along with an enormous quantity of other meat, cakes, gingerbread, pickles, apples, vegetables, cheese, and mince pies.

Captain George F. Noyes reported from General Phil Sheridan’s Army of the Shenandoah

The want of proper appliances compelled most of the men to broil or stew their turkeys, but everyone seemed fully satisfied, and appreciated the significance of this sympathetic thank-offering from the loyal North. One soldier said to me, "It isn’t the turkey, but the idea that we care for," and he thus struck the key-note of the whole festival.

The Spanish American War


The United States became involved in the war between Cuban nationalists and colonial Spain when the Maine, a battleship sent to Havana to safeguard American interests, was blown up. The United States declared war on Spain in April of 1898. Within a few weeks, Spanish troops had been ejected from both Cuba and from the Spanish possession of Puerto Rico, gaining fame for Teddy Roosevelt and his "Rough Riders." Meanwhile, Admiral George Dewey and the American fleet in the Pacific destroyed the Spanish fleet in Manila harbor, ending Spanish rule in the Philippines. Active hostilities ceased by October of 1898.



The Spanish-American War was America’s first military venture overseas. Problems of transport were overwhelming; inspection was totally inadequate. Food, especially the notorious "embalmed beef," was spoiled by heat and there were numerous cases of deadly food poisoning among the American troops in Cuba.

The need for reform was obvious. A clearer understanding of nutrition led to more balanced rations. Ordering procedures were upgraded and bureaus combined for increased efficiency in transportation. The first school for military cooks was established. Better cooking utensils and mess gear were developed, field ranges replaced campfires. Improvements brought about by the Spanish-American War made future celebrations of military Thanksgivings possible.

World War I


Large-scale war broke out in Europe in 1914, but America maintained its neutrality for several years. After six American ships were sunk by German submarines, President Woodrow Wilson asked Congress to declare war on Germany. The first American troops reached France in June 1917. Over 2,000,000 American soldiers were sent to France before the end of the war in 1918 and nearly 2,000,000 more were in training at home for service abroad if needed.

During the First World War, special efforts were needed to feed five distinct groups : American troops stationed in the U.S., American troops abroad, the U.S. civilian "home front," European allied troops, and European civilians. Herbert Hoover was given sweeping power to set prices and to take measures against hoarding and profiteering. Americans were urged to save on sugar, wheat, fat, and meat. Civilian Thanksgiving recipes reflected this patriotic austerity, as pumpkin pies were sweetened with molasses and served with sugarless ice cream.



There was an appreciable upgrading of the standard overseas ration.

The "doughboy" diet now included a greater variety of food and a wider use of fresh foods, even in the field. The military’s ability to produce food and send it to the troops overseas was greatly improved. American troops celebrated Thanksgiving at camps in the United States and overseas during the First World War. Soldiers and sailors from every region of America, men who often had little in common, gathered together to celebrate a unifying and patriotic holiday, a day that was uniquely American. This unifying theme was emphasized by the military Thanksgiving menu, a menu that centered almost entirely on "traditional" New England food.

Between the Wars


After World War I, the country turned its back on Wilson’s "internationalism" and tried to avoid political entanglements in the wider world. The United States continued, however, to be involved in significant commercial interests overseas.



American entrepreneurs continued to pursue their business interests (on occasion, with military support) in the Pacific, and in Central and South America.

The number of American military personnel, which had reached a peak of 2,396,000 in 1918, generally hovered around 137,000 throughout the more peaceful 1920s and 1930s. This smaller military force developed a special camaraderie during the 1920s and 1930s. A "family" feeling was promoted by military Thanksgiving celebrations with abundant food and festive printed souvenir menus.



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To: SAMWolf
Happy Thanksgiving! Never Forget...


41 posted on 11/25/2004 8:18:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Morning Glory Snip & Sam~

O give thanks to the Lord for He is good.
~Psalm 107~

"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
~Winston Churchill~

Have a most blessed and thankful day, we are so fortunate to have a Father in Heaven who hears our prayers and sees us through challenging times. May His awesome hedge of protection be around our troops overseas and our great country. Selah . . .


42 posted on 11/25/2004 8:40:40 AM PST by w_over_w (In golf a birdie (-1), an eagle (-2), a seagul (a bad slice at Pebble Beach CC).)
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To: SAMWolf

Thanksgiving At The White House

Here's to another great thread, and to all the turkeys who didn't get pardoned.

May everyone at the Foxhole have a Blessed, Safe, Healthy, and Happy Thanksgiving

 

43 posted on 11/25/2004 10:01:46 AM PST by tomball
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Morning Colonel. Turkey sandwiches for the next couple of days. MMMMMMMMMMMM!


44 posted on 11/25/2004 10:09:44 AM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: The Mayor
Thanksgiving and every Christian Holiday out there.
American History itself is no longer taught..

:-(

45 posted on 11/25/2004 10:10:28 AM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: oh8eleven

Morning oh8eleven.

Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for your service.


46 posted on 11/25/2004 10:11:49 AM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: w_over_w

Happy Thanksgiving w_over_w.

Great Rockwell picture of the GI peeling taters at home. :-)


47 posted on 11/25/2004 10:14:48 AM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: tomball

Morning tomball.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.


48 posted on 11/25/2004 10:15:28 AM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: SAMWolf

I know..

We teach our kids history at home..
We have 4 conservative children and they know real history..

My wife got fired from her School bus driving job because
she stated some facts about stem cell research to some
students on her bus.
The monday after she was fired..


49 posted on 11/25/2004 10:25:52 AM PST by The Mayor (Salvation is not turning over a new leaf, but receiving a new life.)
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To: SAMWolf

LOL
50 posted on 11/25/2004 10:40:18 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Matthew Paul

Good evening to you Matthew Paul, a fine day here in Kansas City this afternoon.

Hope you are having a fine day as well and a lift of the alfa6 lid to you for your reports on what is happening in Poland and beyond.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


52 posted on 11/25/2004 11:50:28 AM PST by alfa6 (Moderation is for monks!!!)
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To: Matthew Paul
Thank You Thank You Thank You!!


A blessed day to you as well.

I have been following the events in the Ukraine, looks as through things may calm down there for a bit.
53 posted on 11/25/2004 12:05:00 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: The Mayor
My wife got fired from her School bus driving job because she stated some facts about stem cell research to some students on her bus.
The monday after she was fired..

And no recourse available, right? GRRRRRRRRR!

54 posted on 11/25/2004 12:05:36 PM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: bentfeather

Hey! That's me at Thanksgiving!


55 posted on 11/25/2004 12:06:16 PM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: Matthew Paul

Afternoon Matt.

Wishing Poland an American Happy Thanksgiving.


56 posted on 11/25/2004 12:07:20 PM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: SAMWolf
She did contact an attorney and she wrote this letter to the editor.
It will be in tomorrows newspapers

Casualties of the Culture War

A few weeks ago, I read an interview with Mel Gibson, wherein he explained that in 23 years of embryonic stem cell research, we haven't found a single cure for any disease - ever. Not one life has been saved. But in using adult stem cells, we've found over 300,000 cures. I was stunned, and as a schoolbus driver, I shared it with my students. I did not express an opinion, I shared a scientific fact, and I encouraged the students to share it with their parents. They did, and after some apparently uninformed discussion, a couple of parents brought their twisted rendition to the Grand Island School District, and demanded my dismissal. It would seem they needed to strengthen their case, so they then fabricated a lie about lack of control, and students standing while the bus is in motion, which simply doesn't happen on my schoolbus. Without warning, and after two and a half years of spotless service, the school district submitted to their infantile demands, and promptly fired me.

Boy, did I learn my lesson. I learned that free speech is definitely not free, that education stops at the schoolbus door, and that either political correctness, or the irrational rantings of a tiny, vocal minority supersedes reason, facts and truth. The strongest language that was used to justify my dismissal was "inappropriate". I then asked, reasonably enough, "What was inappropriate about it?", but have yet to receive a response.

If millions of people in California voted on it by referendum, why is it off-limits to speak about it with students? And if such facts were provided the students by their health or science teacher, would anyone care? I have learned since then, that the use of embryonic stem cells causes only cancers, cysts and tumors.

In the midst of all the misplaced outrage, is the story of the sad and disturbing success of a fraudulent social "conscience" that devalues life in favor of demonstrably failed science, wasting billions of dollars in the process, and one that pretends to champion tolerance, but punishes reasonable discourse. Memo to the Schools: Submitting to terrorist demands rewards ignorance, and utilizes a most ineffective conflict resolution technique.

Whether it's the sheer joy gained from pilfering one's meeger sustenance, or just a post-election tantrum, those parents, and the educators and administrators who should know better, are the real victims in this culture war. To be continually and easily bamboozled by liberalism's ideological nonsense is not a level of discernment (or lack thereof) that should be admired, aspired to or encouraged.

Our children, sadly, may be the biggest casualties of all. How can we expect them to grow into rational, objective adults, if we ourselves refuse to tolerate logic, or dissent from our own narrow view? How can we expect honesty, when we use lies to sweeten our case against those we oppose? The school district, in enabling the minority, has sent a message that those who stamp their feet the loudest wins, and has paved the way for an irresponsible, amoral, ill-bred and disobedient generation. Sounds like anarchy.

As one of the responsible citizens of Grand Island, with a hefty tax burden and a stake in the future, I encourage you to stamp your feet. Loudly.

57 posted on 11/25/2004 12:34:16 PM PST by The Mayor (Salvation is not turning over a new leaf, but receiving a new life.)
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To: The Mayor

Good letter, let's hope it gets some results.


59 posted on 11/25/2004 1:00:07 PM PST by SAMWolf (I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it.)
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To: SAMWolf

It will be interesting to see if there is any feedback from it..


60 posted on 11/25/2004 1:03:48 PM PST by The Mayor (Salvation is not turning over a new leaf, but receiving a new life.)
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