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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Alcan Highway (1942-1943) - June 18th, 2004
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Posted on 06/18/2004 12:00:34 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: SAMWolf

Neat thread Sam. Kinda different, but it does have Engineer guys.


41 posted on 06/18/2004 10:00:34 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Vexillologist to the FReeper Foxhole)
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To: Johnny Gage
Thanks Johnny. Thunderball!


42 posted on 06/18/2004 10:11:25 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: Valin
Yep!


43 posted on 06/18/2004 10:12:25 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: Valin
“I’ll not allow it. It is not the business of commanders to be firing upon one another.”

I'm a firm believer in taking out as much of the leadership as possible.

44 posted on 06/18/2004 10:14:25 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: Tax-chick
He and Anoreth were disappointed

I kinda figured that. I remember being a little boy and how attached you get to any animals.

45 posted on 06/18/2004 10:15:39 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Not sure what unit they are. Like the paintings of the "British Square"


46 posted on 06/18/2004 10:17:08 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Morning PE.


47 posted on 06/18/2004 10:17:29 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: Johnny Gage
I think you're right. I remember reading somewhere that the Immelmann of today is not the original maneuver.

The Immelmann turn is a simple yet very effective maneuver under the proper tactical circumstances. The name is derived from its inventor Max Immelmann, a WWI German Ace who devised the method. In reality, the version of the maneuver most people are familiar with today from air shows is not the maneuver that Max Immelmann found so successful.

"The "air show" Immelmann can be flown in very different ways. If a pilot is in combat, he must be aware that under certain circumstances he is placing himself in a dangerous situation if his adversary has enough energy or performance to follow him up into the loop and fire at him while he is very slow at the top. The reversal can be aggressive, limiting the altitude gain in exchange for maintaining additional speed after completion, or it can be very gradual with completion at a higher than normal altitude but the aircraft at near stall speed. Both have advantages. You can go for the quick guns reversal or do a gentle Immelmann, gaining an altitude advantage, then continue into a full power climb just at the edge of stall speed. If the enemy aircraft went for a more aggressive Immelmann, you are above him headed in the opposite direction. As he passes under you low, if he tries a second Immelmann he will fail and you can do a rudder reversal and drop onto him."

"The "air show" version must be used with care and good SA regarding energy states of your enemy."

"Max Immelmann's actual "Combat Immelmann" was what most arena players would call a version of the "Boom and Zoom" He would make a high energy pass at his opponent, pulling up into an efficient vertical climb until he was sure he was out of guns range of his enemy, then he would use a rudder reversal to drop back down from a position of advantage and repeat his attack. From my reading this "rudder reversal" would be on the idea of a "Hammerhead" turn but at a better energy state. Rather than stalling out and using rudder to control the nose, start your rudder input a bit earlier and get the nose in the direction you want it a bit quicker and under more control."

48 posted on 06/18/2004 10:24:26 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: alfa6

Hopefully it didn't totally ruin your garage sale.


49 posted on 06/18/2004 10:25:13 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: Valin
1880 John Sutter, US colonist (gold discovered on his land), dies at 77

I grew up in Sutter Creek, CA. Named for the stream Sutter Creek, in the middle of the Gold Coutry.


50 posted on 06/18/2004 10:25:50 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Vexillologist to the FReeper Foxhole)
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To: Light Speed
Thanks for sharing your personal story Light Speed.

"I don't care if it rains or freezes, long as I have my plastic Jesus, Risding on the dashboard of my car"

51 posted on 06/18/2004 10:27:31 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: Professional Engineer

It was a military project and it deserves the attention. :-)

Besides I had to show that the Engineers earned their pay. ;-)


52 posted on 06/18/2004 10:28:54 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: bentfeather

My pleasure Ma'am.


53 posted on 06/18/2004 10:29:11 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Vexillologist to the FReeper Foxhole)
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To: SAMWolf

Hiya Sam. How's Oregon today?


54 posted on 06/18/2004 10:32:43 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Vexillologist to the FReeper Foxhole)
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To: Professional Engineer

Professional Engineer, Foxhole Vexillologist.

I like it! :-)


55 posted on 06/18/2004 10:35:10 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I've had fun before. This isn't it.)
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To: SAMWolf
It was a military project and it deserves the attention. :-)

Absolutely. Not a battle, bombs, guns thing, but equally important. I like reading about building targets too.

Besides I had to show that the Engineers earned their pay. ;-)

ROFL

Mechanical Engineers - Build weapons
Civil Engineers - Build targets
Electrical Engineers - Build the guidance systems to connect the two!

56 posted on 06/18/2004 10:39:17 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Vexillologist to the FReeper Foxhole)
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To: SAMWolf

Naw, most of the items that were, water sensitive, shall we say were in the basement. We had 6mil plastic or tarps over every thing else. The few things that got wet will dry out pretty quick now that the sun is out.

I just hope that the National Weather Service radar is telling the truth.

Fair skies and following winds to y'll in Oregeon.

Regarda

alfa6 ;>}


57 posted on 06/18/2004 10:43:43 AM PDT by alfa6 (Mrs. Murphy's Postulate on Murphy's Law: Murphy Was an Optimist)
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To: SAMWolf; All
"Islam is a mental disease."
58 posted on 06/18/2004 10:44:15 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Vexillologist to the FReeper Foxhole)
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To: SAMWolf
Ever see a Tree punch someone out?...I did.

One fella was standing in the back of a line truck...as the truck went forward..a treebranch about 2"-3" dia got caught on the front winch deck.
It broke loose...slingshotting with biggy kinetic's up.....over the hood....up the windshield and over the cab,
To Mike Tyson this poor guy right in the mellon.
Just K.O.ed him.
The truck kept driving....no cable was being issued out.
Next comes screaming as several hours of work is torn from the ground and dragged.

Maybe God heard my laughing and felt I needed a lesson.

Several Siesmic geophone sets were missing.....I drew short straw....and had to do a *Johnny Cash..... walk the cut line alone looking for them.

Had a face to face with a Black Angus Bull later.....who looked pissed at having been awakened from his mid-day nap.

real close....I should have had a little red blanket.
The Bull let this Spaniard rookie live,

Thankyou Jesus : )


59 posted on 06/18/2004 10:58:19 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed

Thanks for the graphic! I needed a humor break.


60 posted on 06/18/2004 11:05:33 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Vexillologist to the FReeper Foxhole)
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