The FReeper Foxhole Studies "Big Fella" the XC-99 - June 12th, 2004

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[snippy_about_it]

Good afternoon feather. Saturday's are for sleeping late.

[snippy_about_it]

!!!!!

[Aeronaut]

Ultimately, the whole pusher vs tractor thing boils down to opinion. The >> tractor guys think the pushers fly like pigs and the pusher guys think that >> prop and engine "in your face" is annoying.

Ultimately, the whole pusher vs tractor thing boils down to opinion. The tractor guys think the pushers fly like pigs and the pusher guys think that prop and engine "in your face" is annoying.

[Aeronaut]

Another post successfully un-proofed before sending. My apologies to the world.

[Soaring Feather]

My apologies to the world.

I forgive you Aeronaut.

[SAMWolf]

the whole pusher vs tractor thing boils down to opinion

I figured since jets are based on "pushing" that designers at that time were trying to get props to work that way too. I didn't see any real advantage. (looks strange too)

[Aeronaut]

The other thing that strikes me about pushers is that you lose a bit of lift from the prop-wash over the wings. Especially in a heavy aircraft on a short runway, I would think of that as detrimental.

[Professional Engineer]

The XC-99 grew out of the B-36 bomber

That was my guess when I saw the engine intakes.

[Professional Engineer]

My thoughts are of last evening when our fabulous Military folded Old Glory that had graced our former President's casket and gave it to Nancy Reagan. I lost it at that moment.

That was incredible. The TV was blurry for two hours, but tears rolled freely during Amazing Grace, Taps and the flag folding.

[Professional Engineer]

Does anyone know the advantages and disadvantages of "pusher"?

Although probably not an issue for this plane, or the B-36, the loss of "prop wash" across the control surfaces is usually a large disadvantage. In a pusher configuration, the A/C must rely completely on airspeed for control effactiveness, the same way a jet A/C must.

[Professional Engineer]

Hiya Sam. What is the occassion for the ship tours? Sounds cool.

[SAMWolf]

Rose Festival Fleet Week. An Annual Festival we have each June in Portland. We signed up for the morning tours tomorrow.

[PhilDragoo]

R-4360

3000 Horsepower R4360 Wasp Major. Largest piston engine that was developed during WWII. Powered B-36, B-50, and other postwar aircraft.

R-4360

XC-99 by Helmut Scherer

XC-99

Very cool: Convair XC-99 and Model 37

I see from John Shadegg (R-AZ) that fiscal 2002 included this item:

U.S. Air Force Museum (restoration of XC–99 aircraft), OH $200,000

I think we can safely add Sen Jean-Fraud Kherrimenei (Communist-france) annual salary to that--he's AWOL.

It is well that we had the XC-99 to deliver Kleenex to this household this past week.

A blast from the past:

SOVIET ITAR-TASS NEWS AGENGY HAILS KERRY'S STAND AGAINST REAGAN DOCTRINE (1987)

[Iris7]

The second to last color photo shows AF lads pushing a nacelled R4360 into a C5 Galaxy. This is identified as an XC-99 engine. You can see that this is a sizable piece of hardware. Not as heavy as it looks, though, only about two tons.

Had a once in a lifetime chance on ebay to buy an R4360 for $10,000, to be picked up in Washington State. I have no place to put it. The engine was said to be a zero hour AF rebuild.

[SAMWolf]

Morning Phil Dragoo.

Thanks for info on Kerry, first Vietnam and now the Soviets, seems like Kerry sure has a log of Communist friends.

Don't drool too much on the keyboard, PE. :-)

[E.G.C.]

BTT!!!!!!

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Good morning foxhole freepers! I wanted to say thnak you to all of the people who have fought for freedom. May God bless them and their families. I hope you all have a Happy Sunday! Here is a blast from the past:

:

OTR MAIL CALL- BOB HOPE, BING CROSBY, JUDY GALRAND, FRANK SINATRA, JIMMY DURANTE

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[SAMWolf]

Morning DBR.

Nice old Time Radio link. A little before my time but my mom told me about listening to radio like we watched TV.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Thanks Sam.. I am sure no one here needs reminding of this.. but some others (we know who) need to be reminded that the two fingers up represents V for VICTORY- It does not represent the antiwar,peace movement.