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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits The Ploesti Raid - (Aug. 1, 1943) - May 15th, 2004
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Posted on 05/15/2004 12:00:14 AM PDT by snippy_about_it

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To: PhilDragoo

BTTT!!!!!!!


121 posted on 05/16/2004 3:03:10 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the pix. The one with the top half of the empennage missing was amazing.


122 posted on 05/16/2004 3:32:40 AM PDT by snopercod (It ain't over until I say it's over.)
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To: Professional Engineer
I plan to be sitting at the table cleaning a thunder stick, when her date arrives.

If you really want to be scary, arm her brothers!

123 posted on 05/16/2004 4:51:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's possible that I look exactly like Catherine Zeta-Jones.)
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To: Iris7; SAMWolf
Love radials, the bigger the better.

I had the pleasure and priveledge to be standing about 100ft behind a Corsiar when the engine was fired-up one time. It was located between two metal hanger buildings that were about 200ft apart. The noise and reverberation was intense. I know I was grinning ear to ear!

124 posted on 05/16/2004 9:08:45 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Islam is a cancer on humanity. Time for some radiation treatments.)
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To: Tax-chick
If you really want to be scary, arm her brothers!

LOL. That won't be a problem. BTW, here is Msdrby's shooting iron.


125 posted on 05/16/2004 9:16:54 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Islam is a cancer on humanity. Time for some radiation treatments.)
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To: Professional Engineer; Iris7; SAMWolf

Fellow radial lovers should plan to travel to Reno the week of September 13th for the air races. The T-6s have their own class and, in the unlimited field, there is a long running rivalry between the baddest radial of them all, Rare Bear, and a gaggle of Mustangs. The old stick and rudder guy says Check it out.


126 posted on 05/16/2004 10:23:48 AM PDT by kilowhskey (The Purple Hoax Must Not Stand)
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To: Professional Engineer

Nice. Hope she can hit on the first shot though. :-)


127 posted on 05/16/2004 11:29:20 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Vengence is mine says the Lord, but I'm busy, so I sent the US Marines.)
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To: kilowhskey

A Mustang making a low pass. There's a sight and sound to behold.


128 posted on 05/16/2004 11:31:21 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Vengence is mine says the Lord, but I'm busy, so I sent the US Marines.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Pretty! My dad had a similar one hanging on the wall for years ... wonder what happened to it?


129 posted on 05/16/2004 12:21:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (It's possible that I look exactly like Catherine Zeta-Jones.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it

Thanks for the Airpower thread, Sam and snippy.


130 posted on 05/16/2004 4:48:16 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Frankenstein's Rule: If you make the monster you have to deal with the angry peasants)
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To: CholeraJoe

You're welcome CholeraJoe.


131 posted on 05/16/2004 5:06:54 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Vengence is mine says the Lord, but I'm busy, so I sent the US Marines.)
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To: Iris7; SAMWolf

Iris7, I happen to live just a couple of miles from the Save A Connie airport. Downtown Kansas Citry Aiport(MKC), A while back the Connie flew over while my neighbor was working on a car. He looked up and asked what the heck was that racket. I told him it was only 13,000 horses flying over.

The Connie has a sound all it's own anymore, any time I here it I try to get out and take a look. Connies are one of the few planes that look like they are going 500mph just sittin there.

One other thing regarding Wright R-3500s and Skyraiders, I recall reading a story years ago of a Skyraider being launched with the WINGS FOLDED and the plane was able to make a safe carrier landing. Have you any knowledge of this story?

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


132 posted on 05/16/2004 6:48:25 PM PDT by alfa6 (GNY Highway's Rules: Improvise; Adapt; Overcome)
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To: alfa6
I recall reading a story years ago of a Skyraider being launched with the WINGS FOLDED and the plane was able to make a safe carrier landing.

That one I never heard of. Skyraider is an excellent plane. I read somewhere that it can carry the firepower equivalent to a WWII destroyer. Don't know how true it is but it sure sounds impressive.

133 posted on 05/16/2004 7:13:43 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Vengence is mine says the Lord, but I'm busy, so I sent the US Marines.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Bump!


134 posted on 05/16/2004 7:45:48 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: snippy_about_it

My grandfather, "gramps," said the mission was hell. The flight was very long, and they were off course. When they did correct the course - because of uncalculated cross winds - the German Wurzburg radars had vectored aircraft aginst the bomb group.

Gramps knew the planes would be sent up against them, because they flight commander had ordered the aircraft to a higher altitude to combat the heavy crosswinds to save fuel for the return trip back to N. Africa.

Once the fighter planes were cleared, the Liberators then dropped to an altitude of about 150 feet. They ran square into an anti aircraft artillery train which began ripping planes out of the sky.

Gramps' plane lost #1&#4 engines on the way in. Both waist gunners wewre killed by anti aircraft fir, and the tail gunner was critically wounded dying before the mission was completed - no one could get to the man, because the floor boards to the aircraft aft of the wing were severely damaged, and deemed unsafe to walk over.

Weapons were dropped on target, and then the crew had to fight a dying aircraft all the way back to the Med, and attempt the crossing. All weapons were discarded along with any unneeded weight.

Engine #3 failed on the return trip, and my grandfather had to make a determination whether to ditch the aircraft. The crew made the determination that the plane would NOT survive a water ditch, so gramps decided they would try to ride it out and hope for the best.

When they reached N. Africa, and made the approach, landing gear would not deploy. Manual attempt was tried, but the undercarriage was so heavily damaged from flak that it was no use.

Ball turret could not be retracted back into the fuselage, and the gunner had to crawl out of the turret, and climb through the damaged fuselage to egress from his position.

Gear up, nose slightly elevated, the plane ground to a halt after breaking in half just aft of the bomb bay.

My grandfather was a strong man, and a good pilot. After VE day he wanted a transfer to the Pacific theater, but his request was denied, and the B-24 he had inherited to fly from Italy into Germany was used as a cargo plane. He died of Cancer in the early 1980's.

SS


135 posted on 12/11/2006 10:37:47 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

Thank you for your grandfather's story. Those were some men we had. America grows them up good!


136 posted on 12/11/2006 2:35:14 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: snippy_about_it

PING!


137 posted on 12/11/2006 2:53:49 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; alfa6; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; Samwise; Wneighbor; radu; ..

Good morning everyone.

138 posted on 12/12/2006 7:05:14 AM PST by Soaring Feather (I Soar, cause I can....)
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To: snippy_about_it

LOL I'm on the wrong thread! Oh dear!


139 posted on 12/12/2006 7:06:17 AM PST by Soaring Feather (I Soar, cause I can....)
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To: Soaring Feather

LOL. What day is it?!!


140 posted on 12/12/2006 2:59:40 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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