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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits Tet 1968 - Jan. 31st, 2004
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Posted on 01/31/2004 4:50:10 AM PST by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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TET OFFENSIVE



1968



Tet: The Turning Point


Four-star General Vo Nguyen Giap led Vietnam's armies from their inception, in the 1940s, up to the moment of their triumphant entrance into Saigon in 1975. Possessing one of the finest military minds of this century, his strategy for vanquishing superior opponents was not to simply outmaneuver them in the field but to undermine their resolve by inflicting demoralizing political defeats with his bold tactics.



Giap was prepared to take a gamble. His divisions had been battered whenever they met the American forces in conventional combat and the VC- if not exactly on the retreat -was at least being pushed backwards. Hanoi was perfectly aware of the growing US peace movement and of the deep divisions the war was causing in American society. What Giap needed was a body-blow that would break Washington's will to carry on and at the same time would undermine the growing legitimacy of the Saigon Government once and for all.

In one sense, time was not on Giap's side. While Hanoi was sure that the Americans would tire of the war as the French had before them, the longer it took, the stronger the Saigon Government might become. Another year or so of American involvement could seriously damage the NLF and leave the ARVN capable of dealing with its enemies on its own. Giap opted for a quick and decisive victory that would be well in time for the 1968 US Presidential campaign.



Giap prepared a bold thrust on two fronts. With memories of the victory at Dien Bien Phu still in his mind, he planned an attack on the US Marines' firebase at Khe Sanh. At the same time the NVA and the NLF planned coordinated attacks on virtually all South Vietnam's major cities and provincial capitals. If the Americans opted to defend Khe Sanh, they would find themselves stretched to the limit when battles erupted elsewhere throughout the South. Forced to defend themselves everywhere at once, the U~ARVN forces would suffer a multitude of small to major defeats which would add up to an overall disaster. Khe Sanh would distract the attention of the US commanders while the NVA/VC was preparing for D-day in South Vietnam's cities but, when this full offensive was at its height, it was unlikely that the over-stretched American forces would be able to keep the base from being overrun and Giap would have repeated his triumph of fourteen years before.

It's highly doubtful that the NVA/VC expected to hold all or even some of the cities and towns they attacked, but the NLF apparently did expect large sections of the urban populace to rise up in revolt. With a few exceptions, this didn't happen. South Vietnam's city dwellers were generally indifferent to both the NLF and the Saigon Government but the VC clearly expected more support than it actually got. The object of attacking the cities was not so much to win in a single blow as it was to inflict a series of humiliating defeats on the Americans and to destroy the authority of the Saigon Government.

When the US/ARVN forces finally drove the NVA/VC back into the jungle, there would be left behind a wasteland of rubble, refugees, and simmering discontent. Stung by their defeats, the Americans would lose heart for the war and what was left of the Saigon Government would be forced to reach an agreement with the NLF and Hanoi which - after a time - would simply take over in the South. This offensive would begin in January 1968 at the time of the Vietnamese Tet (New Year) holidays.



The village of Khe Sanh lay in the northwest corner of South Vietnam just below the DMZ and close to the Laotian border. Khe Sanh had been garrisoned by the French during the first Indochina war and became an important US Special Forces base early on during the second. Its importance lay in its proximity to the Ho Chi Minh Trail. From Khe Sanh, US artillery could shell the trail and observers could keep an eye on NVA traffic moving southwards. If necessary they could call in air-strikes or alert CIA/Meo raiding parties across the border in Laos. Special Forces working with local Montagnard tribesmen also harried NVA traffic in the area and were a definite nuisance to Hanoi. In 1967, the Marines took over Khe Sanh and converted it into a large fire base. The Special Forces moved their base to the Montagnard village of Lang Vei.



Towards the end of 1967, it was obvious that Giap was planning something. Broadcasts from Hanoi were speaking of great victories and of taking the war into the cities of South Vietnam. Two NVA divisions- the 325th and the 304th were spotted moving into the Khe Sanh area and a third was positioning itself along Rout#9 where it would be able to intercept reinforcements coming in from Quang Tn. The two NVA divisions near Khe Sanh had fought at Dien Bien Phu and the warning was clear. Westmoreland picked up the gauntlet and began to reinforce the base despite predictions of upcoming bad weather which could hinder air support and interfere with vital supply planes.

Appearances to the contrary, Westmoreland had no intention of duplicating the French mistakes at Dien Bien Phu. American airpower was capable of delivering devastating attacks on concentrations of enemy troops and - apart from anti-aircraft guns - was unopposed. Helicopters and parachute drops by low-flying cargo planes reduced the dependence on re-supply by road.



By late January, some 6,000 Marines had been flown in to reinforce the Khe Sanh garrison and thousands of reinforcements had been moved north of Hue. The NVA build-up also continued; 20,000 North Vietnamese were ultimately moved in around Khe Sanh but other estimates put the number at twice that. Initially, Giap would position his artillery in the DMZ and then send his assauIt troops against the fortified hills surrounding Khe Sanh which the Marines had captured in the dogged fighting in 1967.

Having captured the hill positions, Giap reasoned, the NVA artillery could be moved onto the heights above the beleaguered base. Then - as happened at Dien Bien Phu - waves of determined infantry would steadily grind away until the defenders were pushed into a corner and finally over-run. The White House and the US media became convinced that the decisive battle of the war had begun. TV news reports were so obsessed with Giap's threatened replay of Dien Bien Phu that day-to-day life at Khe Sanh became lead-story material even when it showed nothing other than anxious Marines waiting for something to happen.



The first attack began shortly before dawn on January 21st, when the NVA attempted to cross the river running past the base. It was beaten back but followed by an artillery barrage which damaged the runway, blew up the main ammunition stores, and damaged a few aircraft. Secondary attacks were launched against the Special Forces' defenses at Lang Vel and against the Marines dug-in on the hills surrounding Khe Sanh but these attacks were aimed more attesting the defenses than anything else. The next day, helicopters and light cargo aircraft flew in virtually every few minutes replacing lost ammunition but the weather began turning worse.



The NVA began a concentrated artillery barrage and moved their troops forward to begin building a network of entrenched positions in which they could prepare for further assaults on Khe Sanh's outer defenses. Anti-aircraft guns and the worsening weather made incoming supply flights difficult running skirmishes designed to break through on Route#9. Air and supporting US forces moved-up to engage the NVA in running skirmishes around Khe Sanh and were intensified and despite the weather- pounded the North Vietnamese hour after hour.

Electronic sensors of the types running along the McNamara Line surrounded Khe Sanh. Seismic and highly sensitive listening devices enabled the Americans to monitor everything from normal conversations to radio communications. Overhead, high-flying signal-intelligence (SIGINT) aircraft intercepted communications traffic over the entire front and to and from command centers in North Vietnam. While the world was watching the drama unfolding at Khe Sanh, however, NVA and VC regulars were also drifting into Saigon, Hue, and most of South Vietnam's cities.



They came in twos and threes, disguised as refugees, peasants, workers, and ARVN soldiers on holiday leave. In Saigon, roughly the equivalent of five battalions of NVA/VC gradually infiltrated the city without anyone informing or any of the countless security police taking undue notice. Weapons came separately in flower carts, jury-rigged coffins, and trucks apparently filled with vegetables and rice.

There was also a VC network in Saigon and the other major cities which had long stockpiled stores of arms and ammunition drawn from hit-and-run raids or bought openly on the black-market. It was also no secret that VC drifted in and out of the cities to see relatives and on general leave from their units. Viet Cong who were captured during the pre Tet build up were mistaken for regular holiday-makers or deserters. In the general pattern of the New Year merry-makers, the VC's secret army of infiltrators went completely unnoticed.






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To: snippy_about_it
Hi Snippy, I feel a bit better, but I'm not out yet. Hopefully, I should feel better tomorrow. It'll go away eventually, thanks for asking,
121 posted on 01/31/2004 3:47:03 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Okay, your welcome.
122 posted on 01/31/2004 4:02:33 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Aeronaut

123 posted on 01/31/2004 4:02:55 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA
Thanks Gail!
124 posted on 01/31/2004 4:11:15 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: All
More information on the TET Offensive


The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Sgt Alfredo Gonzalez the Battle for Hue(Jan-Feb 1968)-Dec. 10th, 2003
125 posted on 01/31/2004 4:17:51 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: U S Army EOD; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; colorado tanker
By the way, I just sent a E-mail to Sen John Kerry asking him if he was going to seek the endorsement of Jane Fonda in his run for the White House. I will let you know what he says if he replies.

My next e-mail to him will ask him to explain why that I heard his political stand was "To the left of Ted Kennedy and behind Barney Frank".

HANOI JOHN KERRY RECEIVES 97%
LIFETIME RATING FROM VIET CONG

In 1991, the United States Senate created the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs to examine the possibility that U.S. POW/MIAs might still be held by the Vietnamese. As chairman of the Select Committee, Kerry proved himself to be a masterful chameleon portraying to the public at large what appeared to be an unbiased approach to resolving the POW/MIA issue.

But, in reality, no one in the United States Senate pushed harder to bury the POW/MIA issue, the last obstacle preventing normalization of relations with Hanoi, than John Forbes Kerry.

In fact, his first act as chairman was to travel to Southeast Asia, where during a stopover in Bangkok, Thailand, he lectured the U.S. Chamber of Commerce there on the importance of lifting the trade embargo and normalizing relations with Vietnam.

During the entire life of the Senate Select Committee, Kerry never missed a chance to propaganderize and distort the facts in favor of Hanoi.

C. Stewart Forbes, Chief Executive Officer of Colliers International (Kerry's cousin), was awarded a contract worth billions designating Colliers International as the exclusive real estate agent representing Vietnam.

Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry

126 posted on 01/31/2004 4:24:26 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Thanks Phil.

FYI - Their site is down when I click on the link and I can't get the pic either. Is Kerry after them?
127 posted on 01/31/2004 4:27:49 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin; U S Army EOD; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
To the left of Ted Kennedy and behind Barney Frank".

Disturbing image ALERT!

And they're getting married in Howard Dean's state.

128 posted on 01/31/2004 4:30:09 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: SAMWolf; Valin
Probably just planted by the narcs to give Rock and Roll a bad name. ;-)

August 25, 1972 the Dead played six hours in UC stadium in Boulder for 35,000 fans.

It rained off and on, but the Dead played on.

At one point, four young men brought out two large baskets containing a plastic-bagged green agricultural product.

These men threw the packages into the crowd.

I have no idea what they contained, being far away with sixteen young men and women with water pistols filled with gin.

129 posted on 01/31/2004 4:34:56 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Alfalfa sprouts?
130 posted on 01/31/2004 4:37:23 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: U S Army EOD; Darksheare
Actually if we start making the punishment fit the crime on a daily basis then it will no longer be unusual.

If Angleton could build a special cell to put Noskenko through 1400 days of hell, why do murderers get color tv?

Why not:

Is it safe?

131 posted on 01/31/2004 4:45:56 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: snippy_about_it
The home site is U.S. VETERAN DISPATCH .

The Kerry site is Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry.

The Kerry site is occasionally taken down to add photos and commentary ("under construction").

I just went to both the home and Kerry sites and they came up, but then ComCast is fast and reliable.

Try this photo from the home site:

Pulling up both sites now, no problem.

132 posted on 01/31/2004 4:52:43 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Your search - www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm - did not return any results.

Your search - www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm - did not return any results.


For the life of me I don't understand it!
133 posted on 01/31/2004 4:56:38 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Darksheare
Oh No you guys have saftey inspections too. DEQ is bad enough.
134 posted on 01/31/2004 5:04:04 PM PST by SAMWolf (We secretly replaced the dilithium crystals with Folgers crystals...)
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To: bulldogs
Nasty tasteing? I think if I can survive Darksheare's coffee I can try this. I'll have to get the wife to pick up some ginger root. Wonder how hard that is to find.
135 posted on 01/31/2004 5:05:37 PM PST by SAMWolf (We secretly replaced the dilithium crystals with Folgers crystals...)
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To: Light Speed
Afternoon Light Speed.

The United States lost the will to win in Vietnam. Giap knew if he could win in the war of public opinion. People like Jane Fonda and John Kerry were valuable allies to Giap. The Communists were willing to take massive casualties and take as long as needed to win.
136 posted on 01/31/2004 5:10:59 PM PST by SAMWolf (We secretly replaced the dilithium crystals with Folgers crystals...)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Evening Aloha Ronnie. Thanks for the links to LZ-Xray
137 posted on 01/31/2004 5:12:21 PM PST by SAMWolf (We secretly replaced the dilithium crystals with Folgers crystals...)
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To: U S Army EOD
I remember the Ricky Nelson death. One of the last people I would have thought was a druggie.
138 posted on 01/31/2004 5:13:45 PM PST by SAMWolf (We secretly replaced the dilithium crystals with Folgers crystals...)
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To: Professional Engineer
Fascinating isn't it?
139 posted on 01/31/2004 5:15:03 PM PST by SAMWolf (We secretly replaced the dilithium crystals with Folgers crystals...)
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To: SAMWolf
Same here, he just did not fit the immage.
140 posted on 01/31/2004 5:15:35 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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