The FReeper Foxhole Profiles General of the Air Force Henry "Hap" Arnold - Jan. 26th, 2004

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[SAMWolf]

Sure looks like Kilroy's nose.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Yeah, lol.

[PhilDragoo]

Tribute to a Generation - The memorial will be dedicated on Saturday, May 29, 2004.

Regarding this memorial, Bob Dole said before a roomful of veterans in Albuquerque in October 1998 that he'd been to ask donations of the Hollywood studios--and been stiffed.

Hollywood has made a profit of late on such films as Saving Private Ryan and Pearl Harbor yet stiffed veteran Bob Dole and the memorial to the warriors.

I think we limited our filmgoing to We Were Soldiers after that.

[SAMWolf]

Regarding this memorial, Bob Dole said before a roomful of veterans in Albuquerque in October 1998 that he'd been to ask donations of the Hollywood studios--and been stiffed.

Why am I not surprised?

[PhilDragoo]

Then-Lt. Col. Henry H. “Hap” Arnold sits on the wing of a B-10. The B-10, which entered service in 1932, provided the high altitude capability and bombing accuracy needed by “industrial web theory” proponents.

Martin B-10B

Engine: Two Wright R-1820-33 of 775 hp. each

Big photo gallery at link.

Showing off the troops over Boston. America's first modern, all-metal bomber, the Martin B-10 is escorted by Boeing P-26's (Peashooters) below, and Curtis P-6 Hawks, above.

Orville Wright inspects a Wright Cyclone radial engine in 1941.

At the time, General Hap Arnold was moving toward achieving his dream of creating an independent air force. He'd established the intelligence unit to make air force training films and documentaries, train camera crews, and accompany our planes on combat missions. I was sent to the unit because of my experience in motion pictures. My first assignment was to recruit technicians and artists from the movie business for the new unit who were ineligible for the draft, and pretty soon, even though I was wearing the bars of a second lieutenant, I was offering majors' insignias to half-million-dollar-a-year movie directors. We also had first call on draftees from the industry. I wound up as adjutant and personnel officer for the unit. Our combat camera crews went to every war zone in the world and our training films were used throughout the army air corps. In a way, we'd become the Signal Corps for Hap Arnold's new air force.

Bombers

One of nine shots of Pratt R 4360 at link below

Images from the Lone Star Flight Museum, by Dick Merrill

Boeing B-29 Superfortress (42-24812)

As for the R-3350, it first flew in 1941 in the B-19 which was Douglas Company’s huge test airplane, Now 60 years later the engine is still powers the fastest prop plane in history-the Grumman build- “ Rare Bear”, it has been clocked at 571 mph producing 4,200 horsepower; it flies in the unlimited class of races at the Reno Air Races.

Wright R-3350

P&W R-2800 (P-47)

Hap Arnold at USAFA in 3D

[SAMWolf]

Evening Phil Dragoo.

I always did get a kick out of that Bule and Yellow color scheme of the 30's and early 40's.

Another good flick featuring the B-17.

[Iris7]

I don't like to see those historic artifacts cut open, it is like a dissected person, just heaps of dead parts. There is a King Tiger at the Patton museum at Fort Knox with the turret cut away so that gape jawed yokels can see inside without effort, and U-505 in Chicago all cut up, ugh. The same museum in Chicago has a bunch of cut up radials, even a Gnome rotary, double ugh. Painful to look at. Removing the air cooling shrouds, sure. No more.

Put up a full set of drawings under glass, and use the mind's eye, and have a perfect exhibit. Don't cut the exquisite machine up. Cutting them up shows disrespect for the folks who built them and the lads who took them into harm's way.

What effort those old machines show, what fine people must have built something so well.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[snippy_about_it]

Thanks Phil. Great pictures.

[stainlessbanner]

Thanks for the earlier account of Florida regiments, SamWolf.

First of all, there is a great thread for further reading on Florida History: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/993896/posts

Florida raised the greatest number of troops per capita during the WBTS. She was the third state to seceed, with close ties to South Carolina. In fact, many thought the hostilities would erupt at Ft. Pickens rather than Ft. Sumpter.

Florida itself did not have many battles in state. Two that come to mind were Confederate victories - the students in Tally held Union troops outside of the city in the battle of Natural Bridge. The battle of Olustee had the greys overwhelming the blues at Lake City (which is now home to the world's largest CBF).

The Confederacy counted on Jake Summerlin and the "Cow Cavalry" to supply beef and salt to troops in VA, MS, SC, etc. Floridians engineered the first desalinisation (??? I mean no salt) plants on the ocean, but were often forced to abandon their stills in the face of attacks.

The famous blockade runners made the trip up the St. John's (going South) to Sanford, hiked thru Melonville, Geneva, and New Smyrna or Mosquito Lagoon to make the run to the Bahamas for trade (sugar and rum).

I found a quick history of Florida in the WBTS here

I'm currently reading "Confederate Florida" and I can recommend "Florida in the Civil War" by Nulty as a quick and comprehensive book of the subject.

[stainlessbanner]

Another interesting fact, Tally is the only Southern capital east of the Mississippi R. that remained in Southern control. Thanks to the boys from Florida Military Institute for standing proud in '65.

[stainlessbanner]

Inscription: THE RIGHTS OF THE SOUTH AT ALL HAZARDS

[colorado tanker]

12 O'Clock High. Very, very good choice, Phil! Back in the 80's that film was being shown to incoming students at the Harvard Business School as an example of leadership and sound management. Wonder if Dubya saw it there?

[texson66]

Not to mention Los Angeles AFS/AFB

[CholeraJoe]

I thought about adding that one but it's right off the runway at LAX.

[SAMWolf]

Cutting them up shows disrespect for the folks who built them and the lads who took them into harm's way.

And I thought I was the only one who felt like that!!

[SAMWolf]

The Foxhole covered the Battle of Olustee a while back. Nice list of books on that thread thanks for the link.

[stainlessbanner]

The Olustee reenactment is coming up, SamWolf!

[SAMWolf]

That site was an excellent source for the thread. you going to be able to attend?

[stainlessbanner]

I will make every effort to attend! If I make it, I'll share some pictures.