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The FReeper Foxhole Studies Operation BOLO and the Birth of the Wolf Pack - November 3rd, 2003
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Operation Bolo - Mig Sweep
Robin Olds and Birth of the Wolf Pack
The North Vietnamese thought they were attacking bomb-laden F-105s. What they ran into was Robin Olds and the Wolfpack, flying Phantom F-4s.
Mig Sweep By Walter J. Boyne
On Jan. 2, 1967, with aircraft losses in Southeast Asia on the rise, the United States Air Force resorted to an elaborate combat sting. The mission, called Operation Bolo, constituted an electronic Trojan Horse concealing the hard-hitting F-4 Phantoms of USAF's 8th Tactical Fighter Wing within a radiated image that simulated bomb-laden F-105 Thunderchiefs.
Despite adverse weather and a few surprises, the "MiG Sweep" did what it was designed to do: trick the increasingly elusive MiG-21s of North Vietnam into engaging F-4s rigged for aerial combat.
Until the latter part of 1966, MiG aircraft had not been as great a threat to USAF strike forces as the Surface-to-Air Missiles and anti-aircraft fire. Ironically enough, the introduction of the QRC-160 (ALQ-71) electronics countermeasures pod on the F-105s changed this. The QRC-160 was effective in neutralizing the radar controlling the SAMs and flak, and the resilient North Vietnamese responded by increasing their use of MiG fighters to prey on vulnerable F-105s configured for bombing.
Operating under ground control, and making maximum use of both cloud cover and the almost benevolent American rules of engagement, the enemy aircraft were adroitly employed. The MiGs, especially the later model MiG-21s armed with heat-seeking missiles, sought to attack the strike flights and make them jettison their bomb loads prior to reaching the target areas. Their mission was fulfilled if the Thuds were forced to drop their bombs prematurely, but they tried to score kills wherever possible.
 The MiG-21 was a short-range day fighter-interceptor and the first major production version of the popular MiG-21 series. The aircraft pictured here is painted and marked as a MiG-21PF of the North Vietnamese Air Force during the Vietnam War. USAF Museum photograph.
The air war in Southeast Asia, while unique in many respects, harkened back to earlier conflicts in terms of the relative missions, forces, and equipment. As in World War II and Korea, the mission of US forces was to obtain air superiority, destroy the enemy air forces, and conduct long-range bombing operations. The mission of the enemy forces was to defend their most important targets by choosing to engage the American bombers on a selective basis.
Thud, Phantom, Thud
There were other parallels. To achieve the air superiority mission, the American fighters had to have a long-range capability and still be able to defeat the enemy fighters over their own territory. What the Mustangs and Sabres did in their wars, the F-4 Phantom II was required to do in Southeast Asia. Flights of F-4s, carrying a mixed ordnance load of bombs and missiles, would be sandwiched in between Thud flights at four- or five-minute intervals. If the F-105s in front or behind were attacked, the F-4s would drop their bombs and try to engage. If they were not, the F-4s would drop bombs right along with the Thuds.
A final, tragic parallel is the price paid to execute the missions that were often laid on for statistical rather than tactical reasons. Flying Phantoms or Thuds was dangerous work. As a single example, by late 1967, more than 325 F-105s had been lost over North Vietnam, most to SAMs and anti-aircraft fire.
The North Vietnamese air force consisted of slow but heavily armed and maneuverable MiG-17s and a handful of modern delta-wing MiG-21s. The MiG-17s were semiobsolete but still effective in their defensive role. (The MiG-19 did not enter service with the North Vietnamese air force until February 1969.)
The MiG-21 Fishbed was roughly half the size of the Phantom and was designed as a high-speed, limited all-weather interceptor. It could carry two cannons and two Atoll infrared homing air-to-air missiles which had been developed from the US AIM-9B Sidewinder. At altitude, the MiG-21 could outfly the F-4 in almost all flight regimes. It had spectacular acceleration and turning capability.
At lower altitudes, the F-4s used their colossal energy in vertical maneuvers that offset the MiGs' turning capability, for they lost energy quickly in turns at low altitudes. The MiG-21s were operated under tight ground control. They typically sought to stalk American formations from the rear, firing a missile and then disengaging. If engaged, however, its small size and tight turning ability made the MiG-21 a formidable opponent in a dogfight.
 MIG 21 Fishbed
The Phantom had been intended originally to be a fleet defense aircraft, but it proved to be versatile in many roles, including reconnaissance, Fast Forward Air Control, Wild Weasel, bombing, and air superiority. The F-4Cs were armed only with missiles, although gun pods could be fitted.
The air war in Southeast Asia had grown progressively intense, and Dec. 2, 1966, became known as "Black Friday" when the Air Force lost five aircraft and the Navy three to SAMs or anti-aircraft fire. Air Force losses included three F-4Cs, one RF-4C, and an F-105. The Navy lost one F-4B and two Douglas A-4C Skyhawks.
These ground-fire losses were accompanied by the marked increase in MiG activity during the last quarter of 1966. Because the rules of engagement prohibited airfield attacks, the men of the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing were determined to blunt the enemy's efforts by luring the MiGs into air-to-air combat and then destroying them.
The reluctance of the MiG-21s to engage did not mean that the North Vietnamese pilots were lacking in either courage or skill. At the time, the US estimated that there were only 16 MiG-21s in the theater, and the enemy had to employ them selectively to maximize their utility.
The New Boy
Brig. Gen. Robin Olds, USAF (Ret.), recalls himself as the proverbial "new boy on the block" with the 8th TFW, as yet unproven in the jet air war of Southeast Asia. When he arrived at Ubon RTAB, Thailand, as a colonel, to assume command of the Wolfpack on Sept. 30, 1966, Olds, who was 44 and stood six feet two, struck some as more the Hollywood concept of a combat commander than an Air Force regular officer. This was, at least in part, because he was married not to the girl next door but to film star Ella Raines.
Son of Maj. Gen. Robert Olds, one of the most influential generals in the Army Air Corps, the new commander of the 8th was a World War II ace. Olds would later remark that he never flew one mission over Germany that was as tough as any mission over Hanoi.
Olds' war-ace status was marred somewhat by a reputation for being a maverick. Olds had often argued forcefully against contemporary Air Force training. He was an outspoken advocate of intensive training in the arts of war he learned in Europe. Unable to wangle his way into the Korean conflict, he had continued to press for training in strafing, dive-bombing, and other conventional warfare techniques at a time when US fighters were being adapted to carry nuclear weapons and fight a nuclear war. His advice, though not well received, was a realistic forecast of what would be required for war in Southeast Asia.
Olds knew he would have to prove himself to the combat-hardened veterans of the 8th as a leader in their war. He wished to use his past beliefs in a plan that would confirm his present status. He had first presented his idea for a MiG ambush to Gen. Hunter Harris Jr., Pacific Air Forces commander. Harris ignored him. Olds next went to the commander of 7th Air Force, Gen. William W. "Spike" Momyer. It was in early December 1966, at a cocktail party in the Philippines, that Olds edged next to Momyer. After a few polite remarks, Olds said, "Sir, the MiGs are getting pesky" and went on to describe ways to bring them to battle. Momyer's expression of deep disinterest didn't change. He moved away, leaving Olds with the uncomfortable impression that he had blown a good opportunity.
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To: snippy_about_it
Not bad . . . not bad. He knew when to "press" and double "press" on the betting pool. My Dad had to tell him that his son (me) was ruthless with USGA rules and would not cut him any slack. Olds said, "why did we let him join our group again?" He was kidding . . . I think?
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posted on
11/03/2003 11:46:12 AM PST
by
w_over_w
(The meek shall inherit the earth . . . but not it's mineral rights.)
To: snippy_about_it
Happy Monday It was till I got fired from my job. First time that has happened in 30 years.
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posted on
11/03/2003 11:47:15 AM PST
by
The Mayor
(Through prayer, finite man draws upon the power of the infinite God.)
To: The Mayor
Today????
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posted on
11/03/2003 11:49:17 AM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: snippy_about_it
Yes, just a couple hour ago.
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posted on
11/03/2003 12:04:17 PM PST
by
The Mayor
(Through prayer, finite man draws upon the power of the infinite God.)
To: The Mayor
I'm so sorry to hear this Mayor. I'm sure this is a very tough time.
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posted on
11/03/2003 12:08:03 PM PST
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snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: CholeraJoe; *all
You know how I love airpower threads. Ask and you shal receive! :)
Air Power F-4 Phantom II
 (*note the carrier name on the plane) |
The F-4 Phantom II was a twin-engine, all-weather, fighter-bomber. The Phantom was first used by the U.S. Navy as an interceptor but also was capable of flying as a ground-support bomber for the U.S. Marine Corps. The aircraft could perform three tactical air roles air superiority, interdiction and close air support as it did in southeast Asia. McDonnell designed one of the greatest fighters of the postwar era as a company venture to meet anticipated future needs. Planned as an attack aircraft with four 20mm guns, it was quickly changed into a very advanced gunless all-weather interceptor with advanced radar and missile armament. The aircraft flew every traditional military mission: air superiority, close air support, interception, air defense suppression, long-range strike, fleet defense, attack and reconnaissance.
The Phantom was the first multiservice aircraft, flying concurrently with the U.S. Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps. It is the first and only aircraft ever to be flown concurrently by both the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds. The name Phantom II was chosen to declare the aircrafts lineage from McDonnells FD-1 Phantom which was the first all-jet aircraft the Navy operated. Phantom II production ended in 1979 after over 5,000 in 15 different models had been built -- more than 2,600 for the USAF, about 1,200 for the Navy and Marine Corps, and the rest for other nations, including to Israel, Iran, Greece, Spain, Turkey, South Korea, West Germany, Australia, Japan, and Great Britain. The US Air Force purchased more than 2,600 F-4s and, as a result, a large portion of the Air Force's pilots, navigators and maintenance people spent a great deal of their careers around and in F-4s. Used extensively in the Vietnam War, later versions of the aircraft were still active in the US Air Force inventory well into the 1990s. F-4s are no longer in the USAF inventory but are still flown by a number of other nations.
In the 1960s, most of the thousands of McDonnell employees were involved in delivering the Phantom. Between 1966-67, production averaged 63 F-4 aircraft each month. Production peaked at 72 Phantom aircraft a month in 1967. By 1978, production was 4 to 6 aircraft a month. In all, production of the F-4 contributed to more than 1 million man-years of employment at McDonnell.
The Phantom is powered by twin General Electric J79 engines, mounted side by side along the length of the fuselage. Of the engine's sub-models, the most important is the J79-GE-17. Each engine delivers a thrust of 5,385 kg. without using its afterburners, and 8,210 kg. thrust with the afterburners. The Phantom is a two seater, with the navigator/WSO sitting behind the pilot. In case of an emergency, the WSO can fly the plane from his seat.
Specifications:
Primary Function: All-weather fighter-bomber.
Contractor: McDonnell Aircraft Co., McDonnell Corporation.
Power Plant: Two General Electric turbojet engines with afterburners.
Thrust: 17,900 pounds (8,055 kilograms).
Crew: Two (pilot and Weapons system/electronic warfare officer).
Dimensions:
Length: 62 feet, 11 inches (19.1 meters).
Height: 16 feet, 5 inches (5 meters).
Wingspan: 38 feet, 11 inches (11.8 meters).
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 62,000 pounds (27,900 kilograms).
Performance:
Speed: More than 1,600 mph (Mach 2).
Ceiling: 60,000 feet (18,182 meters).
Climb Rate: 49,000 ft per minute
Range: 1,300 miles (1,130 nautical miles).
Armaments:
Four AIM-7 Sparrow and four AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles,
AGM-65 Maverick missiles, AGM-88 HARM missile capability,
One fuselage centerline bomb rack and four pylon bomb racks capable of carrying 12,500 pounds (5,625 kilograms) of general purpose bombs.
Systems:
F4:
APQ-120 fire-control radar [Hughes]
AJB-7 bombing system
ASQ-91 weapon release system,
ASX-1 TISEO (Target Identification System Electro-Optical) Northrup
ASN-63 INS
APR-36 RWR
F4G:
ALQ-87 FM barrage jammer
ALQ-101 ECM pod Westinghouse noise/deception jammer
ALQ-119 ECM pod Westinghouse noise/deception jammer (covering three bands)
ALQ-130 ECM pod
ALQ-131 ECM pod
ALQ-140 IR countermeasures system [Sanders]


Many more photos here!
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Air Power Mig-21 "Fishbed"
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The MiG-21F is a short-range day fighter-interceptor and the first major production version of the popular MiG-21 series. It is but one of many versions of this aircraft that have served in the air arms of many nations around the world. The E-5 prototype of the MiG-21 was first flown in 1955 and made its first public appearance during the Soviet Aviation Day display at Moscow's Tushino Airport in June 1956. During the Vietnam War, MiG-21s were often used against U.S. aircraft. Between April 26, 165, and January 8, 1973, USAF F-4s and B-52s downed 68 MiG-21s. More than 30 countries of the world-including nations friendly to the U.S. -have flown the MiG-21. At least 15 versions of the MiG-21 have been produced, some outside the Soviet Union. Estimates place the number built at more than 8,000, a production total exceeding that of any other modern jet aircraft.
The aircraft has mid-mounted delta wings with small square tips. There is one turbojet inside the body. There is a small round air intake in the nose. There is a single exhaust. The fuselage is a long, tubular body with a blunt nose and bubble canopy. There is one belly fin under the rear section. There is a large dorsal spine flush with the canopy. The tail fin swept-back and tapered with a square tip. The flats are mid-mounted on the body, swept-back, and tapered with square tips. The J-7FS modification adds a radar to a reconfigured air intake, while the "Super 7" upgrade would have completely reworked the front end of the aircraft, adding a much larger radar and ventral air inlets, along with various other less pronounced improvements.
MiG-21 aircraft acquired by the United States under the Foreign Materiel Acquisition/Exploitation program are designated as the YF-110.
In the former USSR this aircraft was manufactured between the late 50s and the middle 70s. The MiG-21 is the world champion in the number of the air vehicles produced (11,000) and in airframe service life (up to 30 years). That is why about 3,000 MiG-21 are now operated by the air forces of more than 40 countries. The MiG-21 is close to setting another world record in the amount of the upgraded aircraft.
MiG-21MF is a single-engined, single-seat supersonic jet fighter designed primarily for destruction of air targets by guided and non-guided weaponry and for air reconnaissance. To a certain extent, the aircraft can also be used for destruction of ground targets. A two-seat modification MiG-21UM is designed for advanced and perfection training of pilots for MiG-21 types. MiG-21MF (NATO reporting name Fishbed-J) represents the first third generation interceptor/fighter designed to gain and maintain air superiority. It was developed as a universal type to fulfil fighter tasks and multipurpose fighter/bomber tasks with limited possibilities in adverse weather conditions. It is equipped with the R-13F-300 engine with additional combustion, and the RP-22S radar. This type of MiG-21MF was manufactured in 1974 to 1975. Capacity of the internal fuel tanks is 2650 litres. The aircraft can be equipped with an optional external fuel tank under the fuselage and two tanks under the wings with a total capacity of 1470 litres. As to missiles, it can carry R-13A, R-60 and R-MK short-range air-to-air missiles. Standard equipment is the 23mm GSh-23L gun. MiG-21MF can also be used for air support of ground forces. In such case it can carry UB-16-57 or UB-32A launcher tubes, 240 mm S-24 air-to-surface rockets, or bombs up to 500 kg.
The upgrade project offered by RAC "MiG" and named MiG-21-93 is based on the use of "Kopyo" ("Spear") airborne radar, new weapons and equipment. This project has been developed jointly by RAC "MiG", Phazotron-NIIR Company, GosNIIAS and "Sokol" Joint-Stock Company under the general patronage of "Rosvooruzhenye" company. Due to high technical characteristics and reasonable cost, the project has won the Indian tender for MiG-21 fleet retrofitting. The "Kopyo" radar is designed for controlling the full aircraft weapons spectrum: built-in gun, rockets, advanced missiles with homing heads and guided bombs. This makes it possible to enhance qualitatively the MiG-21 following characteristics:
- air target detection and lock-on range both in look-up and look-down with using R-27 and RVV-AE middle-range missiles ( the latter can be launched against several targets simultaneously);
- ground and sea-surface target detection and improved communication, EW and navigation aids;
- air target detection and engagement range in action in the front hemisphere;
- improved guidance and engagement capabilities in action against ground targets of any type;
- track-while-scan mode with the capability of tracking up to 10 targets and engaging two of them;
- capability to battle successfully with forth-generation fighters;
- effective destruction of ground targets covered by enemy air defense.
The main objective of the MiG-21-93 project is to achieve the maximum combat effectiveness with minimum aircraft changes and extend the service life of this reliable aircraft (up to 40 years and 4,000 flying hours). Also, this rational approach to MiG-21 upgrade allows the Customer to save great funds to the utmost. Essentially the tests of the aircraft have been completed and the series production of the upgraded MiG-21bis aircraft for the Indian Air Force has been launched.
Specifications:
Builder: Mikoyan-Gurevich
Internal Fuel: 2277 kg
In-Flight Refueling: No
Engine: One Tumansky R-11F-300 @ 12,675 lbst w/afterburner
Crew: One
Dimensions:
Span: 23 ft. 6 in.
Length: 51 ft. 9 in.
Height: 15 ft. 9 in.
Weight: 18,080 lbs. max.
Performance :
Maximum speed: 1,300 mph.
Cruising speed: 550 mph.
Range: 400 mi range
Service Ceiling: 50,000 ft /
Armaments:
One NR-30 30mm cannon plus
MIG-21pfs = K-13 AA-2 atoll, FAB-500, FAB-250, UV-16-67 rocket pods
MIG-21bis = UV-69 57 rocket pods, AA-8 Aphid, FAB-250, FAB-500

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Global Security.org
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posted on
11/03/2003 12:34:44 PM PST
by
Johnny Gage
(Everybody is someone elses weirdo)
To: Johnny Gage; CholeraJoe
Ask and you shal receive! :) I'd like 50,000 dollars. :)
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posted on
11/03/2003 12:42:01 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: U S Army EOD
"pink paint primer".LOL! I lovve it. I did soemthign lkike that with a pallet of C-Rats. Drove in to the Ration Depot with the "proper paperwork", the loaded up 360 cases of C-rats into my Deuce and a half, and on the way out "retrieved" the paperwork before anyone would find out the "proper paperwork" was totally unauthorized. Got a new field kitchen for our mess hall when our old one picked up some shrapnel holes. We found out the supply depot had one designated for the 31st Engr Bn. So we became the 31st for about an hour, even borrowed one of their trucks to pick it up. Ah!! The good old days.
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posted on
11/03/2003 12:56:21 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: The Mayor
Sorry to hear about your job Mayor. I went through the same thing in 93. First time in my life I was fired. Called it retructuring, either way I was out of work. You have my sympathies, you gonna be ok?
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posted on
11/03/2003 12:59:54 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: Johnny Gage
Thanks Johnny
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posted on
11/03/2003 1:04:35 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: colorado tanker
WOW! Did I screw that post up!
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posted on
11/03/2003 1:05:11 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: SAMWolf
It still disturbs me to this day what I once did. When I was in 11th Special Forces Group we stole a case of LRPS from another unit. Two weeks later they came to us with this sad story about them fixing to have an IG and they were short one case of LRPS and could they please borrow some of ours until after the inspection. We gave them the case we had stolen from them and sure enough after the inspection they gave us the case back with a letter from their CO and his CO on what a great bunch of guys we were for helping them out.
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posted on
11/03/2003 1:29:28 PM PST
by
U S Army EOD
(Just plain Wootten)
To: SAMWolf
LOL! I still got the idea, Sam. The time honored Army tradtion of "scrounging" (nice word for it, wouldn't you say?). You must have been pretty desperate to be scrounging for C-Rats!
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posted on
11/03/2003 1:31:49 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: SAMWolf
Two years ago, my brother arranged for my then 12 year old son and I to fly the F-4 simulator at Holloman AFB, New Mexico. The Air Force has a contract with the German Air Force to train their pilots here in the US. Below is an abbreviated version of the piece I wrote after the experience.
At the appointed time we walked into the building housing the simulator. After signing in we were escorted into the simulator room. The device itself is mounted on a limited motion hydraulic platform. The control panel (see photo) allows the instructor to monitor the pilot's responses to every imaginable in-flight emergency and tactical problem. The simulator requires the power of two mainframes to operate.
The first impression one gets is how small the cockpit really is. I don't know the actual dimensions, but it is definitely more cramped than a Cub or a Citabria. There are more buttons and switches than I have ever seen in one place. One quickly focuses on four or five items--throttles, flaps, airspeed, altimeter and artificial horizon. I told the instructor that I had never started a jet engine and would need help getting underway. Through the magic of electronics, he put me and the plane at the end of the runway with both engines running, thus saving us both at least a half hour of fumbling around and accomplishing little.
The first thing one learns when taking off is that at max takeoff weight, 55,000 pounds, the airplane will not leave the ground without the use of afterburners. Afterburners are activated by advancing the throttles to the forward stop, then pushing them to the left and forward again, somewhat like shifting into compound low on a heavy truck. It does not fly itself off the runway. The nose is lifted at 140 and the mains clear concrete at 180. Gear and flaps are on the left. The levers are distinctively different. The gear lever is a short stick poking out of the bulkhead with a knob on the end shaped like a yo-yo. The flap switch has a smaller tapered throw which looks like a flap and would not be mistaken for any other switch in the vicinity. Gear and flaps are retracted as soon as the climb out is established. I came out of burners and leveled off at 10,000 feet in a frighteningly short period of time.
This airplane is a joy to fly! Once trimmed, the controls are lighter than I expected but heavier than one encounters in the garden variety general aviation aircraft. I did aileron rolls to the left and right. Coordinated turns are easy as the stick and rudder seem well harmonized at normal flying speeds. I stuffed it for the first time when I attempted a loop and did not make it tight enough. I fell out of the sky in an inverted flat spin! The instructor let me fall almost to the ground before pressing the reset button. I learned later that if the instructor allows the aircraft to crash, it takes about thirty minutes to reboot the computers. As a result, the instructors are motivated to stop the simulator once it is clear that the student is not going to recover control of the aircraft. The instructor put me right side up and where I was before. In the second attempt I used more power and tried to maintain 2.5gs over the top. That worked fine and I completed the maneuver without further trouble.
Next came flying's biggest challenge, landing the beast. The instructor gave me the easiest possible setup, a five mile straight final to the flare. This airplane has such a high wing loading that it lands really hot. One flies the approach with the power set at 82% ( ! ). Gear and flaps reduce the speed to 180. Control harmony is diminished at this low speed. Pitch and roll are adequate but yaw leaves much to be desired. If you feed in rudder until you see the plane respond, you find yourself in an overcontrol situation. The technique one learns is to add a bit of rudder and wait for the airplane to respond. In the language of the sea, one would say that "she is slow to answer the helm." I had trouble keeping the plane lined up with the runway on all three landings I attempted. I ended up in the dirt in the first two. The third one was marginal, to put it charitably. Standing on the toe brakes, I wrestled the monster to a stop and realized that I was sweating, even though the room was air conditioned. This is as close as I will ever get to the real thing. The experience was a total rush.
Kirby followed me into the cockpit, and, after adjusting the seat, roared off into the wild blue. Cathy and I had sent him to an aviation camp the previous summer. Located at the former Castle Air Force Base in Merced, he spent a week flying fairly sophisticated simulators every day. He was smooth on the controls and flew like he had done this kind of thing a time or two. He easily followed the instructor's guidance. When it was time for Kirby to fly back to the base, the instructor told him to make a 180-degree turn to position the plane for the landing. Kirby asked the instructor if he could make an Immelman turn instead. Surprised that a 12 year old kid even knew what an Immelman turn was, he agreed to let him try it. Kirby proceeded to blow him and the other men in the control room away when he executed the turn smoothly. An Immelman turn is made by executing a half loop. As the plane goes inverted the pilot rolls it upright. It is a quick and easy way to reverse course if the plane has enough power to do such a maneuver. Having successfully reversed course, he proceeded to make three beautiful landings. Once again he surprised everyone in the room with his stick and rudder skills.
We snapped off a couple more pictures (see below) and thanked our host for making such a stunning opportunity possible. Weeks later, I'm still playing mental videotape!
To: colorado tanker
We were. Our unit wasn't authorized C-rats, but we constantly had teams in the field or on convoy. They had to scrounge what they could for food or have our mess make them up "lunch boxes". To us it was like manna from heaven.
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posted on
11/03/2003 1:52:03 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: kilowhskey
Sounds like a thrill, kilowhskey. I 'll bet your 12 year old loved it. The local meusem had an F-18 setup, nothing quite as fancy as the one you had, but my son landed fine and I crashed it. Kids, always showing you up.
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posted on
11/03/2003 1:55:41 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I'm immortal - so far.)
To: SAMWolf
Hmmm. I would take C-Rats over a mess hall "lunch box" too! A little Tabasco would make most C-Rats downright palatable. Except for fruit cake. They should try surplus fruit cake C-Rats for a lightweight armor solution for the Stryker.
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posted on
11/03/2003 2:09:36 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: SAMWolf
you gonna be ok? I will leave that in Gods hands. I shouldn't be out for to long, it just worries me that winter and the holidays are upon us. It isn't the easiest time to find work in construction..
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posted on
11/03/2003 2:12:00 PM PST
by
The Mayor
(Through prayer, finite man draws upon the power of the infinite God.)
To: Johnny Gage
On one of the strikes, a B52 got two Migs with the tail gun.
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posted on
11/03/2003 2:22:13 PM PST
by
U S Army EOD
(Just plain Wootten)
To: colorado tanker
They should try surplus fruit cake C-Rats for a lightweight armor solution for the Stryker. You could be on to something there.
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posted on
11/03/2003 2:58:20 PM PST
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SAMWolf
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