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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the USS Forrestal Fire (7/29/1967) - Oct 14th, 2003
Naval Aviation News ^ | October 1967 | Senior Chief Journalist John D. Burlage

Posted on 10/14/2003 12:00:21 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: radu
Well pump gave up the ghost?
*ugh*
I've done that before.
81 posted on 10/14/2003 3:13:55 PM PDT by Darksheare (The server demons have been slain. Long live John.)
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To: SAMWolf
Me too!
82 posted on 10/14/2003 3:17:25 PM PDT by Darksheare (The server demons have been slain. Long live John.)
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To: aomagrat; SAMWolf
This appears to be the commercially released version of "Trial of Fire". Found it at Amazon.


83 posted on 10/14/2003 4:37:36 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY
Thanks for finding that video Gator Navy.
84 posted on 10/14/2003 5:04:46 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy!)
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To: SAMWolf
USS Forrestal CVA 59 Makes Her Approach

On July 29, 1967 the USS Forrestal was conducting combat operations off Vietnam when a rocket accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom on the hanger deck, striking a parked and armed A-4 Skyhawk. 134 men lost their lives and 64 more were injured by the ensuing fire.

The Nantahala met and refueled her on her way to Norfolk. These photos show some of the damage from that fire.
















85 posted on 10/14/2003 5:20:06 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Additional Pictures of fire










86 posted on 10/14/2003 5:21:03 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good shots showing the damage. Thanks Snippy.
87 posted on 10/14/2003 5:28:04 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy!)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it

Did you see the scorch marks on the outer hull plating here?
Did the hull plates spread and pop here or what?
Lower left below the crane and the covered damaged 3/5 inch mount.
(3 inch or 5 inch guns?)

88 posted on 10/14/2003 5:56:55 PM PDT by Darksheare (The server demons have been slain. Long live John.)
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To: SAMWolf
I saw the films from this disaster:

On 15 May 1965 a bomb exploded on a B-57 aircraft subsequently setting off a chain reaction of other munitions and aircraft on the flight line at Bien Hoa Air Base, South Vietnam. We lost forty aircraft and 26 Americans were killed and another 60 wounded.
89 posted on 10/14/2003 6:02:37 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Darksheare
I think the Forrestal had 5 in mounts.
90 posted on 10/14/2003 6:08:17 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Hi RA. Thanks for mentioning the Bien Hoa accident.
91 posted on 10/14/2003 6:09:14 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Prime BEEF (Base Engineer Emergency Force) teams of civil engineering personnel were organized, equipped and trained to respond within hours to worldwide emergencies and to support the Air Force's mission.

The Lebanon Crisis of 1958, the Berlin Crisis of 1961, and the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962 demonstrated a need for the capability to respond to worldwide emergencies. Aircraft and support personnel were being deployed without providing runways, water supply, electricity, housing, and other facilities necessary to support them. Civil engineering personnel, who could rapidly respond, were needed to accompany aircraft and to provide basing facilities. The Air Force's answer was the Prime BEEF program.

As the buildup of forces in Southeast Asia began, base civil engineering forces were inundated with construction, operations, and maintenance requirements. Large numbers of USAF strike aircraft were sent to bases where pavement for aircraft parking was at a premium. Aircraft were parked wing tip to wing tip, vulnerable to an accidental explosion or enemy attack. A need for aircraft revetments was dramatically brought home on 15 May 1965 when the explosion of a bomb under the wing of a loaded B-57 aircraft set off a chain reaction of explosions on the parking apron at Bien Hoa Air Base, South Vietnam. Forty aircraft were destroyed, 26 Americans killed, and over 60 wounded.

Three 25-man Prime BEEF teams were organized from Air Training Command, Strategic Air Command, and Air Defense Command. Teams were deployed to Tan Son Nhut, Bien Hoa and Da Nang Air Bases (all in South Vietnam) to construct aircraft revetments and complete whatever work that was needed. During their 120-day deployments, the teams constructed over 12,000 linear feet of revetments, parking aprons, and several miles of roads. The revetments paid for themselves in saved aircraft in just the first six months.



Soon other specialized teams were deployed to bases in Vietnam and Thailand to perform short-term construction projects. A Prime BEEF team was sent to Tan Son Nhut to ensure the rapidly growing base had an adequate water supply. Prime BEEF III sent teams to several other bases to build housing. The teams erected "hootches," framed tents, and constructed over 34,000 square feet of support facilities at six bases in South Vietnam.

Prime BEEF teams continued to perform critical repair and construction work in Southeast Asia. Between 1965 and 1972, nearly 2,000 Prime BEEF team members were deployed to Southeast Asia to construct vital petroleum, oil, and lubricant (POL) pipelines and storage facilities; install jet engine exhaust blast deflectors; provide electrical power to buildings; and to erect small buildings.

The Prime BEEF program proved its value in additional situations. Several hundred personnel were deployed to Korea during Operation Combat Fox, following the seizure of the USS Pueblo in 1968. These teams dug wells, laid airfield matting, erected frame buildings, installed aircraft arresting barriers, sandbagged bunkers, and rehabilitated building and utility systems to facilitate the buildup of American forces at Korean air bases.

As the Vietnam War began to wind down, Prime BEEF teams remained in great demand by the Air Force. A number of these teams completed civic action projects in the Trust Territories of the Pacific Islands (which became the Federated States of Micronesia). In 1969, firefighter, now a part of the Prime BEEF program, were sent to locations around the world to provide fire protection and crash/rescue support. Teams also provided civil engineering support for various research projects. For example, they supported a project of the Air Force Weapons Laboratory testing on Eniwetok Atoll in 1972.

In addition to wartime operations, Prime BEEF teams have responded to many emergency situations. Prime BEEF members have assisted military and civilian communities in recovery form natural disasters including Hurricane Camille in 1969 and Hurricane Agnes in 1972.

Prime BEEF has proven to be one of the Air Force's most versatile and productive programs during times of peace and war.
92 posted on 10/14/2003 6:11:13 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy!)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; AntiJen; MistyCA; SpookBrat; PhilDragoo; All
Evening everyone. Nice thread, Sam.

"They were men like Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Hydaulics) 3rd Class Robert A. Rhuda, who could have escaped from the smoke-filled compartments where he was on duty as a police petty officer, but who remained behind to awaken and direct or physically assist shipmates out of the area - returning time and time again until the explosion of a bomb destroyed the compartment in which he was last seen. They were men like that."

93 posted on 10/14/2003 6:18:23 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good evening Victoria.
94 posted on 10/14/2003 6:19:28 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Hi Snippy. How's it going?
95 posted on 10/14/2003 6:27:05 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Evening Victoria. Good composite graphic
96 posted on 10/14/2003 6:30:13 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy!)
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To: SAMWolf
Howdy Sam. Thanks.

How are you doing today?

97 posted on 10/14/2003 6:31:59 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)
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To: SAMWolf
You are welcome :-)

I will never forget those films.
98 posted on 10/14/2003 6:35:51 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Going good, keeping busy!
99 posted on 10/14/2003 7:06:05 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
I saw a documentary on History Channel (I believe it was) last year about the fire on the USS Forrestal and it gave me the willies. I've got them again from reading about it. brrrrrr!

So many were lost that day but it could have been so much worse. Thanks to the heroism of the crew, many lives were saved.
100 posted on 10/14/2003 10:57:27 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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