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"The reality is that we are a "victim" society where no one can be expected to pay for his or her own bad choices. That is what I meant. I am not willing to create a new "victim" class of legal drug users. The only reason drug users are not allowed social security and state disability payments today is that their disability is caused from an illegal act. That is just one example of why legalizing presently illegal substances is a liberal outcome to a libertarian solution."

So we advocate government further violating the rights of others, to lessen the impact of government's current violation of our rights? I do not see violation of the rights of my fellow citizens as the means to lessening the oppression that I recieve at the hands of my government. I think that your approach to dealing with "what is" will only help us along towards what "should not be". But, either way, I think that we both know that drugs will not be legalized in our lifetimes, so we may have some common ground on what is is.

Below is a post that I made in another thread, regarding our welfare state. Do you think that the outcome of the situation that you described would fall in line with this?

"How about if we all break and bankrupt the system by quitting our jobs and registering for welfare, unemployment, disability, and every other give-away program that the our ridiculous government has implemented. The plunder will stop when there is nothing left to plunder.” - from post #11, “Who pays the income taxes?”

"How about if we all break and bankrupt the system by quitting our jobs and registering for welfare, unemployment, disability, and every other give-away program that the our ridiculous government has implemented. The plunder will stop when there is nothing left to plunder.” - from post #11, “Who pays the income taxes?”

All forms of government that allows each citizen the right to vote will eventually evolve to socialism. The only thing that changes that is when the money runs out, IOW Atlas Shrugs. We are far from that point but eventually the takers will so overwhelm the givers that the system will collapse under its own weight. I am in no hurry for that to happen and the best that we can do is delay inevitable. I am sorry but the critical mass is just not there for your idea to have any chance of success. The fact is that most people are happy with their lives and give the WOD 5 minutes a year thought if they think of it at all. Pot will probably be decriminalized in a few states in the near future but there is no national desire to see anything else legalized.

I do not see violation of the rights of my fellow citizens as the means to lessening the oppression that I recieve at the hands of my government.

If your purpose is truely to restore the rights of Americans, and not just procure cheap pot, then your course and the course of the LP should be a campaign to restore the Constitution. Our Constsitution, as written, and as the supreme uncontested law of the land, would put and end to the WOD, welfare, EPA, all of it.

The WOD is used to strengthen Washington because it goes after the least respectable acts/people in our culture. The public does not complain.
The LP is failing in the debate, because it is champion to the least respectable acts/people.

Drop the anti-WOD and champion Constitutional goverment, and then the people will pay attention. The WOD cannot exist with a Constitutional goverment. The fight has been chosen poorly.