To: radical4capitalism
This is just more anti-government rhetoric from the hero of the libertarians. Ron Paul needs to get a new approach to politics and life. These current attempts by Paul, to undermine the Bush administrations efforts to fight terrorism is appalling and clearly his basic strategy isn't working. The Patriot Act was passed in non-partisan fashion and gives law enforcement agencies, the required latitude to hunt down and bring to justice criminals and terrorists who want to bring death and destruction to our great nation. It's also true, Ron Paul's support beyond the fringe extremists here on FR and his home district, is non-existent. Fact is, Paul couldn't get elected as a Libertarian, so he decided to deceive his constituency and run as a Republican. He would be better served if he became a Democrat. He certainly isn't a Republican and can't be considered a well rounded conservative either, in any true sense of the word.
To: Reagan Man
Reagan Man wrote:
"This is just more anti-government rhetoric from the hero of the libertarians."
He is a hero to many of us. Is there anything he's saying that is untruthful, though?
"These current attempts by Paul, to undermine the Bush administrations efforts to fight terrorism..."
If opposing the TIPs (aka, the Nazi on every corner program) indicates that one is attempting to "undermine" the Bush administration, I guess I am guilty. And so is Dick Armey. And so is the National Review.
"The Patriot Act was passed in non-partisan fashion and gives law enforcement agencies, the required latitude to hunt down and bring to justice criminals and terrorists who want to bring death and destruction to our great nation.
Very little of the PATRIOT Act could be considered patriotic. What's patriotic about eroding judicial checks on wiretapping?
"He would be better served if he became a Democrat."
Applying that statement accurately would require Dick Armey to become a Democrat as well. Can you handle freedom? Do you know that Reagan was essentially a libertarian?
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberalsif we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."-- Ronald Reagan
To: Reagan Man
The Patriot Act was passed in the middle of the nite without even being read. I don't consider that bi-partisan, I consider it ignorance.
9 posted on
07/27/2002 7:53:37 AM PDT by
steve50
To: Reagan Man
It looks like you're the designated jester for this forum.
To: Reagan Man
This is just more anti-government rhetoric Look, I don't agree with Ron Paul on everything, but how 'bout this famous quote from Reagan:
[T]oday, government is not the solution to our problems. Today, government is the problem.
Now if this isn't anti-government rhetoric...!
I loved President Reagan because he was against Big Government, and I think the Gipper would be glad to have a man like Ron Paul in Congress. Especially if the alternative would be a RINO or a Rat.
To: Reagan Man
Were told this is necessary to fight the unending war on terror, but in truth the federal government has been seeking these powers for years.
If you have forgotten that this forum was screaming about attempts to insert this crap into all manner of legislation during Clinton's years in office we'll give you an excuse and expect you to catch up on all the news you missed. If you have forgotten that this Forum regularly heaped all manner of praise on Ron Paul for his statements just like this during the Clinton years we will likewise allow you to catch up on what you missed. Anyone can have their head up their @ss for any manner of reasons and miss the important stuff.
If you are merely chosing to ignore the truth of these words then you deserve all the ridicule that a shill deserves. You will have joined such luminaries as Lanny Davis, Rahm Emanuel and Hillary Clinton in the "Spinsters and Shills Hall of Shame."
29 posted on
07/28/2002 6:06:50 AM PDT by
Abundy
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