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That is where the libertarians fall short. That is why if I joined a party, it would be the Constitution Party. They actually recognize the serious importance of an ethical and moral people in a Republic...without it, a Republic WILL fall eventually.

I nearly voted Constitution in 2000.

I voted Libertarian, because I decided that it is silly to expect Morality to be preserved by Government. Government is the enemy of Morality at its best, because Government is Force and Forced Morality is not Morality, it is Hypocrisy.

Which is, itself, a Sin.

A Republic not founded upon an ethical and moral people, will indeed Die. But a Republic not founded upon an ethical and moral people deserves to Die. Trusting Government to forestall the dissolution only makes one party to an anti-Christian form of Messianic Statism.

Where God has failed us, Government will succeed?

God has not failed us, we have failed God. And Government will not succeed, nor bring us back to God, nor help one little bit. Government is an Idol, craves your obeisance, and will only make things worse.

The Government is your Enemy, and the Government desires your Worship. Think about it.

Wow.....VERY insightful post.

You make an excellent point. I have always WANTED a Christian nation in law, but only could support that if the people covenanted to that end. It would be wrong to force people to love God.

However, you take this issue of force much further and make govt. out to be the enemy completely on this matter. You make a powerful argument.

"I nearly voted Constitution in 2000."

I don't see how anyone who cares about the Constitution, and who saw the "Ethics in Government" debate, could vote for Howard Phillips.

Howard Phillips made the absolutely ridiculous claim that the federal government should be involved in abortion, because of the 5th amendment. His completely ignorant interpretation on that amendment was that it was a restriction on individual actions...rather than a restriction only on federal government actions. His reasoning was that the 5th amendment prohibition on federal government denial of "life...without due process of law," actually constituted a federal prohibition on abortion.

No man so ignorant of the Constitution should be allowed to be President. (But, of course, that would mean that our current President wouldn't qualify.)