Distorting the Tax Policy Debate (Ron Paul)

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas ^ | 2010-12-20

[rabscuttle385]

A tax cut, by contrast, simply means government takes less from an individual, company, or industry. When government takes less from you, it has not given you anything; it merely has harmed you less. This is the critical distinction that has been lost in the endless, tired debate about tax policy.

Ping!

[Ouderkirk]

This idea that the tax rate reductions are a net cost to the government is a distraction.

The plain truth is that the democRATS who support higher marginal tax rates are attempting to keep the “working classes” working. A few years in the highest income brackets may be enough to sustain an individual for the rest of their lives if the government didn’t confiscate 40% or more of it.

Property taxes are the most equitable taxation in as much as tax rate(s) on a particular designation of property type, such as R-1 (single family residential) are uniform within the county and municipality. Exceptions are made for waterfront and the like. This is a form of wealth tax. Taxes are based on the assessed value.

Income taxes are a tax on the acquisition of wealth. Thus the wealthy use them to keep the newly minted money of the entrepreneur from becoming wealth. IT keeps the vulgar, uncooth working class types from invading those enclaves that they are so fond of like Aspen, Martha’s Vineyard.

Simply put, they cannot stand the competition from the bourgeois.

[screaminsunshine]

Too bad he is not in the WH instead of Obama.

[RINOS ARE RADICALS]

Ron Paul is an impostor, he is a tool of the left who speaks in half truths and makes statements that no true conservative would, while voting for legislation that no constitutionalists would even consider.

[RINOS ARE RADICALS]

He voted for the Obama tax extension with all the additional spending?

[Bokababe]

What he doesn't mention that is relevant to this, is that when taxes are high on the wealthy, the wealthy hide that money by investing in tax-free government bonds thereby taking the money out of the economy to avoid the tax. So via bonds or taxes government gets to use the wealthy's money, instead of the wealthy spending it on goods and services provided by the middle class.

In short by raising taxes on the wealthy, the gov still channels all that money their way -- instead of the money getting channeled in ways that enrich the rest of us.

[org.whodat]

Of course the bill passed last week did contain some actual spending, mostly in the form of an extension of unemployment benefits for another 13 months. The total spending in the bill amounted to about $60 billion.

Pure BS, That is just about what the Grassely screw the tax payer will spend in one year.

[Lurker]

You wouldn’t know a true conservative if one bit you on the ass.

[org.whodat]

If you think libertarian Ron Paul is a conservative, you are more than a little on the dense side.

[RINOS ARE RADICALS]

The guy voted for the tax package which adds 300 billion to the debt.

I am sorry, but you are the one who is mistaken kind sir.

[SoConPubbie]

You wouldn’t know a true conservative if one bit you on the ass.

A real conservative, as well as, an ethical and moral representative would not load bills up with pork in the form of earmarks and then vote against the bill, knowing it wasn't going to pass so he could say he voted against it.

A real conservative would not have voted for the repeal of DADT, period.

A real conservative is a fiscal, moral, and national defense conservative, not just one of the three.

[SoConPubbie]

A real conservative, as well as, an ethical and moral representative would not load bills up with pork in the form of earmarks and then vote against the bill, knowing it wasn't going to pass so he could say he voted against it.

Sorry, that should have said the following:

A real conservative, as well as, an ethical and moral representative would not load bills up with pork in the form of earmarks and then vote against the bill, knowing it was going to pass so he could say he voted against it.

[dcwusmc]

And just HOW does keeping tax rates lower than they were (or would have been again) contribute to the deficit, pray tell? Or is not stealing more of OUR OWN MONEY FROM US somehow a “cost” to government in your mind? If your answer is “yes,” please explain WHY you feel that government should hold title to what is MINE by right, the right of having EARNED it. Why THEY should be able to take MINE, as much as they please, and call it doing me a kindness by letting me keep a LITTLE of my own property...

I look forward to your reply.

[dcwusmc]

Your reply has the unfortunate problem of sounding like either code talk or gibberish. Could you, would you please clarify it so I know what you’re talking about? What’s BS? Who’s Grassely screw the taxpayer? How and on what will he or she spend $60 billion?

Thanks in advance.

[llandres]

“Ron Paul is an impostor, he is a tool of the left who speaks in half truths and makes statements that no true conservative would, while voting for legislation that no constitutionalists would even consider.”

My biggest gripe with RP, I’ve said since before ‘08, is that he does NOT get it about radical Islam and what motivates it. He’s an isolationist who thinks that if we just mind our own business and play nice, the jihadists will go away and leave us alone. He’s a nightmare when it comes to foreign policy and that’s a really big deal (to me at least) in today’s dangerous world. And he’s said in so many words that 9/11 was our fault for having a presence in the middle east.

[org.whodat]

Dingbat Senator Grassley is the man pushing the corn fuel subsidy crap, and he has always been that man, He needs permanent retirement. The payout to farmers and producers to produce something that he then wrote laws forcing people to buy. No different than obamma heath program.

[RINOS ARE RADICALS]

Maybe you should read the bill that was passed it has around 300 billion of entitlements attached to it.

The tax rates staying the same while spending continues to rise to me is not a bill a true conservative would sign especially when you are seating a new congress in a couple of months.

So I think they should have proposed a tax cut and made them permanent, not keeping them the same for only two years and adding another 13 months to unemployment benefits.

You must be responding to someone else, I am saying that Paul should have not signed this bill because it is more of the same.

[stephenjohnbanker]

B U M P

[dcwusmc]

OK. Now I understand your reply. Thanks for the clarification!