Posted on 05/24/2010 10:02:37 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
I am not anti self defense. I am anti Nation Building wars. A “pre-emptive war” to bring democracy to a country far from our own borders is an unAmerican idea. Pre-emptive Nation Building wars are unjust wars.
http://www.nowpublic.com/barack_obama_neocon_disguise_0
Obama seems to have adopted the neocon position since taking office. It is his war now and he will do what democrats have always done...outwar the Republicans.
Get an early start...join your new champion in chief Obama and embrace your obvious liberal bent.
"Would you repeat that pattern over and over simply allowing dictators to ruthlessly genocide people in other nations by the millions?"
It is amazing how many CodePink types there are here at FR under the guise of being Ron Paul supporters."
Your posts are a pathetic joke. Not fond of neocons, but yours are too exaggerated even as "a caricature of a neocon".
If you are a DNC troll, the jig is up. If by chance you aren't, I think that you made a wrong turn when you accidentally wandered in to FR some months ago, as what you were really looking for was "Fascists Central" .
There are a lot of things that are different now, and one that has gone by almost unnoticed--but it's huge--is that by complete mutual agreement between the U.S. and the Saudi government we can now remove almost all of our forces from Saudi Arabia. Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government. It's been a huge recruiting device for al Qaeda. In fact if you look at bin Laden, one of his principle grievances was the presence of so-called crusader forces on the holy land, Mecca and Medina. I think just lifting that burden from the Saudis is itself going to open the door to other positive things.
If you think teh Paul is goofy, you must think that Paul “Blame America”
Wolfowitz (a key architect of Bush’s foreign policy) is a goofy since Wolfowitz agrees with Paul that they attacked primarily because we were over there.
It doesn’t bother you that Rue Paul is ALWAYS wanting to neuter the military?
I have no idea what RuePaul is doing these days -- I don't keep up with drag queens.
But if you are referring to Ron Paul, Ron Paul was an Airforce flight surgeon during Vietnam -- anything Ron Paul "wanted to neuter" would be singing soprano by now if that were his intention -- but it's not.
How come rab never comments on his own threads?
And weird, and kind of naive about the real world, and a huge hypocrite on his spending schtick.
Other than that, he's all right........
I had to stop here:
“The total expenditures to maintain our world empire...”
and wipe the puke off my computer.
“Ron Paul is my President.”
Be glad he isn’t America’s.
In an age where submarines off the coast can annihilate the USA in minutes, or a crude atomic weapon can kill millions in a flash, we cannot wait for an attack.
George Washington lived when muskets were advanced weapons, and crossing the oceans took months...and the arriving firepower could kill hundreds. George would have been smart enough to notice the changes. Ron Paul is not.
And no, the defense budget is NOT what is driving up our debt. We didn’t add $1,000 BILLION to our annual debt after Obama entered office by spending more on the military...
I think even he's embarrassed by RP. Or at least that'w what it appears as he sure can't defend the pos.
Yeah, we know you think he is “goofy:” The question is this: is Wolfowitz also goofy for advocating the exact position e.g. they attack us becuse we are over there?
You apparently don’t know that we have 160 bases in foreign lands e.g. a world empire. If you think that world polcing of that type has anything to do with the decentralized republic advocated by the founders, you don’t know much about American History.
You obviously A) have a strange definition of “base”, and B) don’t know we exercise no sovereignty over other countries.
We do, however, take pro-active steps to protect our interests. We don’t have the Founder’s luxury of hiding behind two oceans...
For the 2010 fiscal year, the base budget of the Department of Defense rose to $533.8 billion. Adding spending on “overseas contingency operations” brings the sum to $663.8 billion.
Not quite 1,000 billion, and only a fraction of our 3,500 billion budget for 2010...19%.
The actual quote said
"The total expenditures to maintain our world empire is approximately $1 trillion annually...."
Given the context, I think he was adding in foreign aid, plus potentially other elements like NATO participation, etc, not just the military budget.
Foreign aid would add about 50 billion, to a total of around 715 billion.
715 is still far below 1000.
Think ‘entitlement spending’....
Your inability to explain the hypocrisy of your "great constitutional hero" is obvious, so you bring in a canard like your Wolfie claim.
None of you has any moral authority here until you explain this problem of your candidate's record on earmarks and spending.
Biggest spending Republican? The National Taxpayers Union disagrees with you. I think I trust them more to make an objective assessment.
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