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To: rabscuttle385
in 1976 said Reagan, "I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." As you can see, advocating for "limited government" without employing some degree of libertarianism would be logistically impossible.

And Reagan was the one who confronted the soviets on multiple fronts with multiple proxy wars and broke their back.

Its better, if you want to have a discussion, to just lay out what it is you believe rather than throwing epithets around. If you think we should withdraw from Afghanistan, say so and explain how we can make such a withdrawal work.

We are in the process of drawing down our forces in Iraq as the Iraqis are assuming control. If you want to accelerate that process, and bring the forces out quicker, say so and explain how it works. Right now we are assuming we'll leave a force in Kuwait as a reserve that could intervene if the Iranians try to crush the government in Baghdad or any of the other gulf states. If thats a mistake, say so and defend it.

If you are a pragmatist who thinks our friendship with Israel is the cause of all our troubles in the world, again, say so. Then we can have an actual discussion or debate about the specifics of your or our views.

Just calling someone a neocon doesn't mean much. Most of us here aren't jewish intellectuals, and if we were, the word still muddies more than it clarifies.

44 posted on 04/08/2010 10:18:44 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron
The problem is that when we draw down in Iraq and Afghanistan, leaving a "response force" in Kuwait, we leave the jihadis free to move somewhere else, with their ideological and financial lifelines from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and, yes, Kuwait, alive and thriving.

It's an endless game of whack a mole, where we never look under the table to stop the moles from breeding.

62 posted on 04/08/2010 10:52:33 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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