[Delacon]

As good an explaination of why its called the REPUBLICAN Liberty Caucus instead of the Libertarian Republican caucus as I have ever seen. I am a conservative with some libertarian leanings but I gotta say, come on libertarians and jump in, the water is fine. But then you all never really hop out of the pool in the first place.

[parsifal]

Dude, they snuck into the pool a long time ago. That’s the main problem the GOP has IMHO.

parsy, who wants to fling poop at Libertarians

[mnehring]

Lowercase “l” libertarians, yes, uppercase “L” no.

[bamahead]

...come on libertarians and jump in, the water is fine. But then you all never really hop out of the pool in the first place...

You're going to need to get the RINO's out of the water first...



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[aSeattleConservative]

Very few people claim adherence to libertarian philosophy. Among those who do, a majority identifies with the political Right because of the large role economic freedom plays in libertarian ideology. For the most part, libertarians are a fraction within the conservative coalition — not a stand-alone movement.

Other than both parties agreeing that buying shoddy products from China produced by slave labor is a good thing, I'm not aware of too many more likenesses between republicans and liberaltarians.

Keeping in mind that if you claim you are neutral on a subject, you really are for it (by not enforcing laws against it, you're in support of it):

Conservatives AREN'T for open borders, liberaltarians are.
Conservative AREN'T for abortion: liberaltarians are.
Conservatives believe that homosexuality is an abomination; i.e. they're against same sex deviants marrying. Liberaltarians believe that marriage shouldn't be sanctioned by the state.
Conservatives believe that drug use is harmful to the individual, and thus harmful to society. Liberaltarians think they can do anything they want with their body, as long as it "directly" doesn't hurt anyone else (in other words, they can't see past the ash on their doobie).
Conservatives believe in God and His laws; liberaltarians live in a la la moral relativist land. Even the so-called "Christian libertarians" don't believe that government has a role in punishment. Scripture says differently.

Why sling poop at a party that already wallows in it?

[GovernmentShrinker]

Libertarians are the people who don’t want the government spending your money on having kids put condoms on cucumbers and read “Heather Has Two Mommies” OR on goofy “abstinence education”. Bottom line, libertarians are people who want you to keep your money and spend it on whatever YOU want to. The founding fathers wanted the same thing.

[zeugma]

The main problem with the current political parties is that they are not philosophically internally consistent. I consider my self to be "libertarian" because neither party represents my views on liberty (economic, political, and personal) to any strong degree. I absolutely disagree that "progressivism is, at the very least, as much a natural ally of libertarianism as is conservatism". What has come to be known as "progressivism" is essentially a socialist/communist political and economic philosophy/religion, and in no way mirrors my views on much of anything.

Republicans are somewhat closer, but is still too much driven by the nanny staters to be able to garner my wholehearted support.

[neverdem]

What’s with that widget, or whatever it’s called, for the second link? What’s the purpose? It seems to just open the thread in a new window.

[spintreebob]

re: a significant number of Americans have “libertarian leanings”

Most people are not ideoligically consistent. They oppose welfare for others. But that special program they favor is not welfare, it it good for society.

Most people are NIMBY. They don’t want government to tell them what they are permitted to do with their own person or property. But telling others what to do with their property is different.

Progressive, liberal and moderate philosophies are inherently compatible with logical inconsistencies. One can be a progressive and favor welfare for some, but not others.

For better or worse, libertarian philosopy inherently requires logical consistency. That is both its strength and its weakness.

[Tench_Coxe]

I have two problems with the Libertarian people:

1. It is often a cloak for leftists who want to deny party affiliation (case in point: Bill Maher)

2. the constant emphasis on legalizing drugs. Cut the Norml BS

Reagan, I believe, was speaking to the small 'l' group. Which in another time would be classified as classical liberals.