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KY Sen Poll: Paul Takes Commanding Lead In GOP Race (leading Grayson by 19 points, 44-25)
Real Clear Politics ^ | 2009-12-22

Posted on 12/26/2009 3:48:44 AM PST by rabscuttle385

The same grassroots energy that propelled Ron Paul from a little-known Congressman to a force in the presidential primaries now seems to be transferring to his son in his Senate run in Kentucky. Public Policy Polling's (D) latest survey shows him easily ahead of Secretary of State Trey Grayson, who was recruited by the national party after Sen. Jim Bunning (R) was pressured not to seek re-election.

Republican Primary Election Matchup
Paul 44
Grayson 25
Und 32

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Candidates; Issues
KEYWORDS: 2010; apaulling; apaulogia; apaulogist; ky2010; paulbearers; paulestinians; randpaul; rlc
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1 posted on 12/26/2009 3:48:46 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: djsherin; bamahead; Bokababe

fyi


2 posted on 12/26/2009 3:49:13 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
The same grassroots energy that propelled Ron Paul from a little-known Congressman to a force in the presidential primaries “

Ron Paul was never a “force” in the Republican primary.
How many delegate did he ever get?

3 posted on 12/26/2009 4:04:32 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: rabscuttle385
Have not followed this race too closely but IMHO it shows that Rand Paul's campaign image differs from his father's and that being identified with the GOP establishment is becoming the kiss of death
4 posted on 12/26/2009 4:06:05 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

It helps too if you didn’t get the “Crazy A$$ gene”.


5 posted on 12/26/2009 4:10:24 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: rabscuttle385

Paul is not viable... at all.


6 posted on 12/26/2009 4:11:45 AM PST by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I was going to listen to Paul speak here in Henderson this past December 12 but I was in the hospital with pneumonia. It’s a hell of a feeling not to be able to get a good breath of air.

I’ll be voting for Paul. I wish a good conservative with fire in his belly would run against Mitch.


7 posted on 12/26/2009 4:30:54 AM PST by airdalechief
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To: gov_bean_ counter

LOL!


8 posted on 12/26/2009 4:36:34 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: airdalechief

God bless you, and get well soon. It is sad to be in the hospital on the holidays, but worse not to be there when you need to be there.


9 posted on 12/26/2009 4:50:38 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hadn’t a been for Grayson, he’d a been in Tennessee.


10 posted on 12/26/2009 4:50:55 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
(Kingston Trio, Folks...)

:-)

11 posted on 12/26/2009 4:56:58 AM PST by Does so (ObamaCare...I pay for medical-marijuana claims by millions of Americans?)
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To: Does so

Poor boy, you’re gonna...die.

Actually, I wish Rand Paul well. In time we’ll see what he’s about.


12 posted on 12/26/2009 5:03:01 AM PST by decimon
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To: rabscuttle385
Why does Public Policy Polling (D) feel the need to survey a GOP primary?
13 posted on 12/26/2009 5:49:10 AM PST by free1977free
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To: rabscuttle385

It would be nice to have someone in the Senate who actually understands how money works, how capitalism works, and what’s wrong with the economy.

Rand Paul and Peter Schiff would be breaths of fresh air in that corpse-like body.


14 posted on 12/26/2009 6:12:34 AM PST by MichiganConservative (I wouldn't hate the government if it didn't exist. (Evil + Stupid) === Government)
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To: rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..
Kentucy gets it! Mitch 'We Surrender' McConnell's endorsement of Grayson appears to be the kiss of death.



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15 posted on 12/26/2009 9:57:59 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: airdalechief
I’ll be voting for Paul. I wish a good conservative with fire in his belly would run against Mitch.

Me too. I agree with you 1000%!

16 posted on 12/26/2009 10:13:03 AM PST by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: bamahead

This is AWESOME! I hope that Sen. McConnell & his neocon buddies don’t do something to mess things up. I’m sure he would rather have a Dim win the ticket than anyone committed to respecting the Constitution.


17 posted on 12/26/2009 10:13:50 AM PST by ChrisInAR
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To: bamahead

With McConnell’s most recent cave-in, he is the indisputable kiss of death ;-)


18 posted on 12/26/2009 10:26:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: bamahead

This is a most interesting article I am wondering what others think about this here is a snippet...

The Fed is a Fascist Cartel

No one in the freedom movement today disputes that the Federal Reserve is the source of many of our economic woes. Where disagreement arises is in defining the precise nature of the Fed and the source of its capacity to create the harm it does. Many who support gold money and free enterprise claim that the Federal Reserve is a “private corporation” run by capitalist mega-financiers. This I believe to be mistaken.

The Federal Reserve, in my opinion, should not be classified as a private corporation. It should be termed a government-run fascist cartel. There are several important reasons for this. For example, all nationally chartered banks in the Federal Reserve system are forced by the government to join the cartel. Bernanke and his board of governors are appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. The Federal Reserve came into being because of an act of Congress, and it can be altered or legislated out of being at anytime by Congress. These factors are not how private corporations are created or operated. The Fed entails government involvement in a massive way. Without the special monopoly privileges legislated by Congress that sustain the Fed, it disappears.

Moreover, the great bulk of the profits of the Reserve Banks are turned over to the federal treasury. As John McCormack explains in a Liberty magazine article: “[H]olding shares in the Fed is not a very profitable activity. Dividends to member shareholders are limited to 6% of nominal capital (hardly a great rate of return) and all Fed revenues above this amount (invariably vastly greater sums) are returned to the U.S. Treasury. In 1994, for example, total dividends to member banks amounted to $212 million while the Treasury received $20.5 billion, 97 times as much.” [Liberty, March 1996.]

Government is thus a full partner in the Federal Reserve System. And a business entity with the government as a full partner is not a private corporation.

Courts Create a Fallacy

Much of the reasoning behind the mistaken notion that the Federal Reserve is a private corporation lies in court cases such as LEWIS vs. United States on June 24, 1982. In that case, the 9th Circuit Court ruled: “We conclude that the [Federal] Reserve Banks are not federal...but are independent, privately owned...corporations...without day to day direction from the federal government.”

There are numerous cases like this where the courts have ruled that the Reserve Banks of the System are privately owned and controlled corporations. The mistake made here by those who support the notion of a “private Fed” is that because the courts declare something to be so, it somehow makes it so. This, of course, is a fallacy. Judges only interpret the law; they do not make the truth. Truth is something we discover through identification of the facts of reality and coherence with the laws of logic. Men find the truth through a process of synthesizing reason, experience and intuition.

What then are the facts of reality and the laws of logic in this case? They are as follows: A private entity in the marketplace is the opposite of a public entity. It is a free entity without monetary support and monopolistic legislation to protect it from government bureaucracy. It is an entity that is operating in a laissez-faire environment. To the extent that government intervenes into and controls, regulates, manipulates, or monopolizes an entity’s market policies, then that entity is no longer private or free. It becomes statist / collectivist (i.e., socialist / fascist) to some degree or another. How much government involvement there is will determine how collectivist the entity becomes.

For example, Exxon Corporation is considered a private corporation. So let’s compare it to the so called “private” Federal Reserve corporation. Does Exxon have its CEO and board of directors appointed and confirmed by the government? No, but the Fed does. Are 97% of Exxon’s profits turned over to the federal Treasury? No, but the Fed’s profits are. Can Exxon be voted out of existence tomorrow by Congress? No, but the Fed can. Therefore despite what our courts maintain, the Fed is not a private corporation; it is a government run cartel.

The fact that the courts define the Fed as “private” is the way that tyrannical ideologues pull the wool over the people’s eyes. This is done to make the people think we are still a free, “private” enterprise country. This is how they smuggle us into corporate statism, i.e., economic fascism — by getting the intelligentsia of the country to buy into their redefinition of words. The courts are run by statist judges, and the schools are run by statist professors — all pretending that we are still a “free” enterprise system. In fact, many of them actually believe their own warped logic. It’s the way they were taught, and they lack the intellectual rigor to investigate the fallacies of their assumptions. They ritualistically use the term “private” because it conveys the image of “free.” But private in this instance is in name only. If a private entity does not have control over its operations, its profits, and its policies, then it is no longer private; it is public, and socialist or fascist to some degree or another.

Who Controls Who?

So do the bankers control the government, or does the Federal Government control the bankers? One way to answer this question is to ask who can abolish who? Can the Federal Government abolish the Fed? Certainly. Anytime it wants to, Congress could eliminate the Fed by a majority vote of its members. But can the mega-bankers, with all their power to influence politicians, abolish the Federal Government? Hardly. In this respect of creation and abolition, the Federal Government is the power behind the evil of our Federal Reserve system. But in actual practice, I think it is more accurate to say that the evil comes from the combine of the two forces. Separately, neither the mega-bankers, nor the Federal Government would be able to wield the dangerous control over our lives that they gain in concert. It is only when they join forces to become “partners” that they gain the power to do the evil they do.

When the mega-banks of America were still largely free-market institutions operating under the gold standard during the 19th century, their capacity for dangerous power over our economy and individual lives was limited. Likewise with the Federal Government; when it was still a defined Constitutional body without the ability to print paper money, its capacity for dangerous power over our economy and individual lives was limited. But in 1913, these limitations were destroyed because the mega-banks and the Federal Government went into partnership. They formed the massive cartel of the Federal Reserve System. And in doing so, the Federal Government granted monopolistic powers to the mega-banks, which gave them the ability to egregiously expand the money supply via credit creation. After elimination of the dollar’s gold convertibility in 1933 and 1971, this became the power to create money indiscriminately.

What needs to be understood, however, is that the mega-banks could never have achieved such a dangerous power grab without the complicity of the Federal Government. Once again, it was the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 that brought the Creature into being. It was Congress that voted to grant monopoly status to the mega-bankers, which gave them their dangerous credit creation power. Without their monopoly backed by the force of government legal tender laws, the mega-bankers do not have the capacity to expand the money supply inordinately and rob us of our wealth. Thus for all their reputed control over world events, the mega-bankers do not become dangerous until they join forces with the government, which gives them the dangerous powers they now wield.

http://www.thedailybell.com/681/Nelson-Hultberg-The-Fed-is-a-Fascist-Cartel.html

Opinions????


19 posted on 12/26/2009 11:33:07 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: rabscuttle385

...It’s not about the party you associate with, it’s the stance you take on the individual issues. I voted for Ron Paul for pres, because I agreed with lots of his stance on issues, some, I disagreed. Met Rand Paul two months ago, and though he’s running as a repub, I agree with much of his stance on the issues...

...Yea, I’m a registered third party advocate, conservative, Tea, libertarian...


20 posted on 12/26/2009 12:04:16 PM PST by gargoyle (..."I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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