Posted on 12/07/2009 2:13:29 PM PST by rabscuttle385
Hey Ron, you are right, perpetual war will not solve anything. So I suggest you beltway idiots listen to your experienced commanders and go in there 150% and kick those fascist asses to death.
This guy is such a maggot. I can’t wait ‘till we fire his looney butt.
We went to Afghanistan for a reason and it wasn’t “cuzz the durty Jooos tricked us!”
“....all the false reasons we began the conflict
So Paul seems to be ok with the Towers being brought down and the Pentagon attacked. As well as 3000 dead one might quibble over Iraq but the reasons for going into Afghanistan is pretty cut and dried. Unless you maybe think it was a set up, like going to the moon!
Yes I would like to see RINOS gone, but Paul utters this tripe I will take any RINO over him. This is spitting on the dead & wounded of that day. Someone needs to challenge Paul and boot him! Kentucky FREEPERs is his son a loon also. Someone should ask his son if he supports this?
RP’s goofy supporters here were all shouting that RP SUPPORTED troops in Afghanistan. Where are they now?
The way to win wars is established.
1] Congress declares war against all enemies - to unite the nation.
2] An exit strategy is set - unconditional surrender.
3] Overwhelming force is provided - draft sufficient military to fight on all fronts.
4] Rationing and financing as necessary.
Roosevelt was the last President who won a war.
When do you all think we’ll leave Afghanistan?
And under what circumstances?
I think we will go broke and have to come home.
It will be the same old same old over there. No gain for us - except for those who got rich off of it all.
How much more longer do you think our troops should stay?
I don't agree with Paul's aspect of foreign policy that Islam is a peaceful ideology and we should trade with them and our policies are to blame. No, I believe in his other aspect, whereas the enemy should be annihilated and reduced to rubble.
If Ron were president he would face the same problem as anyone else.
Having promised to bring the boys home, do you pull out precipitously, and leave a bloodbath in your wake, as the baddies slaughter everyone who ever had anything to do with you and you just figure its the breaks of the game;
Or do you try and train up a force that can hold the ground as you depart, and give people a fighting chance.
Given the stark choice of a Vietnam/Cambodia genocide or hang in a couple of years while your trainers train, I think even Ron would take the choice he didn’t want to take.
Afghanistan is never going to be Iowa. But it doesn’t have to be Iowa to be a successful mission. All you need is Zawahiri’s head in a duffel bag, and gendarmerie that can keep the Talibs out of the cities. Thats pretty modest, but considering what happened the last couple of times we’ve just walked away, its probably worth it. Its not what Ron would want to do, but its different when its your watch and your conscience.
True statement. He is referring to the concept of “perpetual war for perpetual peace,” which is the purpose of the UNO—to keep a conflict going somewhere on earth at all times to justify its own existence.
” . . . if you make your money on war, peace does you no good.”
Good statement.
“Responses to attacks on our soil should be swift and brief.”
We have the capability to do this, too-—to use just a fraction of what we’ve spent in Iraq and Iran for the purpose of superior intelligence, and use air power, sophisticated weaponry, and special forces units to utterly destroy them, and if necessary to make on-going raids to “prevent the fungus from accumulating under the rim.” (And never tell the news media about it until 7 to 10 days after the operations are certified to have been successful and effective.)
Our leaders are afraid to do this because of UNO and other globalist garbage.
Yes Paul’s son is another leach of society.
Ron Paul is an apologist of the IslamOfascists.
He has ranted and pulls out his diversionary tactics
away from the enemy who can take us out in seconds
and who killed more in one day in September 01 than
on 7 Dec ‘41.
The people who follow this demagogue of the neo left,
Ron Paul are no better than those who are sucked into
the Obama type of propaganda.
Those who won’t support or defend the fight against the
people and ideas of those who attacked American soil
and killed over 3,000 and who declared war against America
are usually the college kids who theory is all they know, not the real world.
Or many who whose roots are not of America and don’t understand the sacrifices of people who built this country
and fought for it.
Several of my 9th great grandparents lived in in the same area of the World Tradw Center in the 1600s.
My great great grandfather grew up just blocks from the WTC in the 1800s.
Today, the descendants of these ancestors of mine are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and they know and understaand why they are there.
Great post.
So I take it you’re in full support of the current administration’s foreign policy?
RP supported going after the people who attacked the Towers and the Pentagon. Not nation building. We still haven’t got the ones who attacked the towers and we’re nation building, just like Clinton did.
When will at the Paul-haters realize that all this foreign nation building is a construct of the the hard left (i.e Woodrow Wilson), not the right? The left has consistently used this to build up the power of the federal gov’t and the right keeps buying into it.
The terrorists who flew into the Pentagon lived around 6 miles from me here in San Diego.
Some think if they don’t think about the enemy, they will go away. That worked well in the 1930s.
‘Or do you try and train up a force that can hold the ground as you depart, and give people a fighting chance.’
Well we have given Afghanistan a 8 years to build up a defense force capable of doing basic tenants; self defense, a simple start.
Now, that there is a ‘time line’, that should motivate them. Nothing motivates someone like Death.
The amount of blood lost by our own people and treasury is staggering, America has sacrificed enough for Afghanistan. Their survival is in their own hands.
Go away Ron Paul. We don't need the likes of you to surrender for us! No way am I gonna wear a burqua!
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