Posted on 11/05/2009 7:39:45 PM PST by El Gringo
California Republican Execs have a chance to redeem themselves ...
After two serious fumbles: 1. Teresa Hernandez for Congressional District 32, May 2009, and 2. David Harmer for Congressional District 10, November 2009. How can they shed their Keystone Cops image? Answer: Follow the Jim deMint lead and support Chuck DeVore to replace senator Boxer. Do not support Carly Fiorina, she is the poster girl of affirmative action. The Board at Hewlett Packard (mostly heirs of Wm. Hewlett and David Packard) soon discovered she was unsuitable, because rather than build on HP strengths, she sought to expand via acquisition, mostly in areas where HP had no strengths. Eventually the Board was able to bring about Fiorina’s resignation. Read the sad stories of Hernandez and Harmer: Click here...
I wasn’t working there at the time, but alot of my friends were and we used to do lunch with people from HP all the time.
Before Carly, HP was like a golden flower of the valley.
The things they were coming out with were hot and the culture was one of free invention. HP didn’t hit the skids till she joined and then everything hit the skids.
Then they got into trouble and had to layoff tons of people and started on the acquisition path.
HP never was big into Manufacturing, they tended to outsource everything. We went to a seminar on the HP Campus prior to Carly, Called the HP Way about how they handled the business.
Carly crashed the party, I never could understand how she came there in the first place. Everyone said she was there due to affirmative action, they needed a woman CEO and therefore passed up others that had the finely ingrained HP Culture.
Bottom line, opinion was that she was there as a product of affirmative action and political correctness of the board. She was an outsider that didn’t know how HP worked, and therefore destroyed the company.
Since I didn’t work there, I can only tell you how fierce the people who did felt about this.
Many years ago, I heard lots of bad things about Fiornino from HP employees. I live in the Silicon Valley.
I hope she isn’t the republican nominee.
That is what I heard from HP employees. She did not appreciate the HP culture at all. If she made tons of money, one could argue that they needed a culture change. However, that is not what happened.
Oh, one more thing, She has about 80k serious detractors in the valley. I would think this would hurt her chances of ever winning the governership.
If she wins the nomination, these people are going to come out of the woodwork and I think there will be a meltdown in the polls.
They were making money, they just wanted to make more (greed) and they wanted to be political correct (affirmative action).
There were 3 other better qualified HP candidates for her job that were passed over because they were white males.
She took them from making money to loosing it.
I have two friends who worked for HP, starting before Carly, and bailing out because of Carly. They hate Carly Fiorina with a passion.
I have the same faith that you do in the leadership of the CA GOP. A bigger crowd of unprincipled, politically correct opportunists would be hard to find.
If not for Fiorina HP would have turned out to be GM.
It was a bloated heavy company with weak product lines.
I have friends at HP who are glad to keep their jobs thanks to changes Fiorina did and the company is in to shape.
Of course some who thought they had a job for ever at HP were disappointed at losing it, this is not a Govt career.
Please show me the long list of Conservative statewide office holders in California.
That was after her. They had a model of out sourcing, bloated product lines didn’t exist till Carly duplicated 80% of the company with the Compaq merger. I have talked to hundreds of hp workers. She was hated beyond belief.
Workers didnlt have to worry about large layoffs because they outsourced so much. They would design it and someone else made it. If it failed, the supplier was the one who had the layoffs.
The only thing they kept in house was the printers where they dominated the market with huge margins. Now where are they? Still trying to recover.
All the information is on the net. They hate her along with some very powerful enemies.
The issue with many Tech workers is that they think they are entitled to a job for ever because they can cut some good code or good at what they do.
The issue props up whenever a big company announces layoffs and outsourcing and the workers hate it. IBM does it frequently and still in pretty good shape even under this economy.
Outsourcing is a reality and techies cannot escape.
Before Fiorina, HP was nothing more than a leader in printers. Under her leadership , it over took Dell in pc sales and more importantly in the corporate sales segment. It diversified in to IT consulting, services etc and it becomae a bigger better company.
A good CEO is not their to be liked or loved, she is there to steer and position the company so that it can take advantage of the market opportunites which she did.
No, your wrong
Most tech companies layoff routinely.
HP was the exception, not the rule.
They had come up with a special recipe with the right culture.
Listen dude, you are in the tank for Carly.
She is a stinking turd, if you can’t take it, then read a different thread.
But your defense of her is grating without any facts. Tech companies lay off all the time.
There have only been 3 of them that haven’t.
You could say programers demand a high salery and a relaxed working enviroment. But you can’t say they are like a tenured govenment employee.
The average guy goes through 4 companies in one year in the valley.
Most of the HP employees weren’t programmers. They were everything from Admin, product management, supply chain, tech workers, engineers, etc.... programmers were a very small part. HP isn’t and wasn’t a software company.
She is a big ol stink bomb getting ready to go off in the GOP’s lap.
If not for hard decisions under Fiorina, HP would’nt be in the comfort zone that it is in.
The important thing is CEO takes the tough decisions which are not popular with a entrenched bloated workforce but necessary for the company to survive.
Of course some are not going to like it ( ex HP employees) but that is the reality of a open economy.
1999 -> 2005
Check the stock chart, look at how it took off when she was fired.
http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:HP
And don’t miss the fact that the stock split before she got hired.
thennnnn....................nothing
Listen dude, you didn’t work for HP nor you have dealt with the company.
All you are doing is complaining here without any experience of how top companies work and the competitive factors in the tech industry.
There are many HP employees happy to keep their job and not follow the footsteps of General Motors.
There are legions of American tech workers who have not accepted the reality of outsourcing and just whinge and whine about it.
Compare to ‘what is name’ Chuck devore and his guaranteed landslide defeat, I am glad to support a qualified women for the senate seat.
You might be wrong about that and may be very shocked. I have been around the block more than once.
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