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Who Are the Real RINOs?
Republican Liberty Caucus via blogcritics.org ^ | 2009-10-14 | Dave Nalle

Posted on 10/14/2009 9:48:48 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

It sometimes seems like many members of the Republican party have forgotten the history of the party and lost track of the principles on which the party was founded. The party was founded in opposition to involuntary servitude and in support of the rights of workers to keep the fruits of their labors. It was founded as a party based on liberty of the individual and liberty from oppressive government and no other beliefs of personal agendas should be more valued by Republicans than liberty.

The popular right-wing website RedState, which has a long history of condemning political figures for not meeting their peculiar standards, provides excellent examples of how those who claim to be Republicans can become confused about basic Republican values and start calling anyone who doesn't agree with their deviant form of pseudorepublicanism Republicans in Name Only and seeking to drive them from the party. They really ought to be called RINOState, based on their advocacy of positions which are based on a moralistic, statist philosophy which is antithetical to traditional Republican values. Like anyone from Olympia Snowe to David Duke, they may choose to call themselves Republicans, but they are not really Republicans if they don't put core Republican values over any other agenda.

Just as you cannot remain true to basic Republican principles while supporting policies like affirmative action or hate crimes laws which set one group above another under the law, by the same logic a true Republican cannot support the Defense of Marriage Act or similar state laws which single out groups for preferential rights based on sexual orientation. How you resolve that issue — be it allowing gay marriage or civil unions or just ending the government role in marriage entirely — is a matter for legitimate debate. But if you just oppose legal equality for homosexuals in general, you have no more business calling yourself a Republican than you would if you advocated slavery or forced unionization or confiscatory taxation.

The problem with the GOP since Reagan or even longer, has been the influx and mistaken acceptance of people whose agendas are based around a small platform of positions which have nothing to do with Republicanism and are in many cases in direct conflict with the principles on which the party was founded. These single issue voters have exploited their ability to bring out small numbers of highly reliable voters in key elections for undue influence to pull the focus of the party away from core values.

The Republican party is a party of principles, not of causes. Causes are the domain of the Democrats who vote on emotion and opportunism rather than principle. Republicans should not take extreme positions on special-interest issues. The only extreme in the party should be an extreme devotion to liberty. Republicans should take a breath occasionally and consider whether the positions they are promoting are Republican values or personal values. If you place a specific issue — no matter how important — ahead of fundamental Republican values, then you are not a good Republican.

Republicans believe in limited government and keeping that government out of the lives of people. If you support legislation which dictates the life choices of individuals or empowers government to control our lives in the interests of security or a social morality agenda, then you're really not being a Republican. By the same measure, if you say you oppose excessive government spending, but are willing to write a blank check for a war or national security or a border fence or any other special program, then you aren't really fiscally responsible. You can't be for limited government if you support a big loophole through which unlimited money can pour.

Many people have come to believe that the Republican party is a merely a conservative party and that this means opposition to change, including opposition to progress on social issues and to reform in government. They think it is supposed to be a party of the status quo. But when the status quo no longer conforms to the traditions of the nation and of the Republican party, then defending that status quo and supporting the current established way in which things are done is absolutely not the Republican way. The Republican party is a party of principle, not a party of mindless opposition to change and as things now stand radical change in our government is essential to restore the basic principles of the founders and the Constitution.

For too many in the GOP adherence to principles has been replaced with promotion of religious values or the values of special interests rather than the basic founding principles of the party. In their awareness that they are Republicans of convenience rather than of principle, they have become defensive and aggressive in targeting those within the party with whom they do not agree for criticism, calling them Republicans in Name Only, a term which conveys mostly irony when used by single-issue extremists and religious conservatives against those who remain true to real Republican values.

The Republican party platform of 1912 contains one of the clearest expressions of the values of Republicanism when the party was founded, through its history and today:

"it is important that the rights of every individual to the freest possible development of his own powers and resources and to the control of his own justly acquired property, so far as those are compatible with the rights of others, shall not be interfered with or destroyed. The social and political structure of the United States rests upon the civil liberty of the individual; and for the protection of that liberty the people have wisely, in the National and State Constitutions, put definite limitations upon themselves and upon their governmental officers and agencies."

First and foremost the Republican party is the party of liberty. Liberty of the individual and liberty from oppressive government. No other principle is greater than that and no other agenda should be placed ahead of the agenda of liberty.

So before you call someone a RINO and declare that your interpretation of Republicanism is the one, true and only brand, consider whether your beliefs are truly Republican and place liberty first, or whether you're defending a set of beliefs which are conservative without being Republican and primarily representative of a set of values where some belief other than a belief in liberty is paramount.

Dave Nalle has been a magazine editor, freelance writer, capitol hill staffer, game designer and taught college history for many years. He is Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus, working to promote liberty in the GOP.


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1 posted on 10/14/2009 9:48:48 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead; djsherin; BGHater
*Ping!*
2 posted on 10/14/2009 9:49:17 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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Sorry, but I don’t need scolding nor an education about what and who a RINO is. Most Senators (R) are. Notable exceptions: two from OK and one from TN. Other than that, the Senate (R) caucus is pretty well (or badly) infested.


3 posted on 10/14/2009 9:58:54 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Needs a barf alert IMO.


4 posted on 10/14/2009 10:04:41 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Where's the huge RINO BARF BARF BARF alert?

But if you just oppose legal equality for homosexuals in general....

Legal equality? They can marry just like anyone else. But they can't legally marry someone of the same sex, and neither can I. It's all equal. So according to whoever these clowns are you have to support legal gay marriage to be a "real Republican"???

These people are full of it. They don't even deserve the name "RINO". Change it to RETARD, 3rd Class.

5 posted on 10/14/2009 10:07:23 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: rabscuttle385

rabscuttle385,

Do you agree with this nonsense?


6 posted on 10/14/2009 10:09:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Migraine

Why do you think those (R) Senators who you object to keep getting elected?


7 posted on 10/14/2009 10:13:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: rabscuttle385
Here's the biggest five right now:

For the whole series of Zero dollar bills, go here:

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8 posted on 10/14/2009 10:14:27 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree with the GOP platform from 1912.

I don’t agree with the notion of legally permitting homosexual marriage, but then again, I don’t think government, at least, at the federal level, ought to interfere in marriage, period.

Mr. Nalle would probably call me a RINO for favoring state government financial support for Virginia’s public colleges, including the University of Virginia, a position that Jefferson held.


9 posted on 10/14/2009 10:18:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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Mr. Nalle would probably call me a RINO for favoring state government financial support for Virginia’s public colleges, including the University of Virginia, a position that Jefferson held.

But Jefferson held that position back when the State of Virginia could actually say something about what was taught there, and what kind of folks were hired there.

It's ridiculous to expect state money from any USA government entity to support so many professors who are dedicated to overthrowing our current constitution.

10 posted on 10/14/2009 10:58:32 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: rabscuttle385
by the same logic a true Republican cannot support the Defense of Marriage Act or similar state laws which single out groups for preferential rights based on sexual orientation. How you resolve that issue — be it allowing gay marriage or civil unions or just ending the government role in marriage entirely — is a matter for legitimate debate. But if you just oppose legal equality for homosexuals in general...

I'm disappointed to see such inconsistency coming from the Liberty Caucus. I oppose the DOMA -- I oppose ANY government involvement in marriage -- but their argument is false. There are no "preferential rights." Heterosexuals and homosexuals already have perfect, exact legal equality (aside from hate crimes laws that specifically shield gays). It's dishonest for this writer to claim some disparity where none exists.

11 posted on 10/14/2009 11:05:26 AM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: slowhandluke
But Jefferson held that position back when the State of Virginia could actually say something about what was taught there, and what kind of folks were hired there. It's ridiculous to expect state money from any USA government entity to support so many professors who are dedicated to overthrowing our current constitution.

That is correct.

I believe that Mr. Jefferson would be deeply disappointed and disgusted to see some of the garbage taught in Virginia's public colleges today.

And, quite frankly, I think that Virginia's public colleges should be returned to their original missions of providing the citizens of Virginia with high-quality, cost-effective educations that not only allow for them to become more productive and happier citizens, but also for them to think for themselves and act as "the sole depositary of our religious and political freedom," as was originally intended by Mr. Jefferson.

"The boys of the rising generation are to be the men of the next, and the sole guardians of the principles we deliver over to them." —Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Knox, 1810

12 posted on 10/14/2009 11:25:15 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385

by the same logic a true Republican cannot support the Defense of Marriage Act

YES WE CAN,

Libertarians are fine (inface I am a member of the RLC), but when they go on a tangent attacking “moral conservatism” they’re out of line..

The Left through the courts are what forced conservatives to focus on social issues in the first place. They are the agressors, if we got back to the Constitution (and balanced court authority, including in “law” (legal prescedent), then they wouldn’t matter as much.

Libertarians NEED to realize this rather than trying to denegrate the social conservative side of the equation, IMO. They’ll lose unless they UNIFY (with other factions on the right, espeically because many people, including me fall into more than one ‘conservative’ category)!


13 posted on 10/14/2009 11:40:39 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Migraine

Huh ? Both of mine in TN are RINOs.


14 posted on 10/14/2009 4:49:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Jim Noble
Why do you think those (R) Senators who you object to keep getting elected?

Because of lack of opposition in the primaries, is my guess. Same district that elects a true conservative soldier to the House has only one choice in the General election for Senate == the RINO that ran unopposed statewide in the (R) primary. It's kinda complicated, but it's the Hobson's choice we get stuck with. There needs to be a concerted effort to remove these mushbrains in the primary process. Classic example: JD Hayworth should be opposing McLame in the primary in AZ. But no. We're going to see one-trick-pony Simcox (Minutemen), who will be easily marginalized as a kook, either in the Primary or in the General.

15 posted on 10/14/2009 5:22:06 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Huh ? Both of mine in TN are RINOs.

Sorry. I had thought your man Corker had been the poster boy for opposition the the Crimulus Bill. Anyway, I was admiring him for a while.

16 posted on 10/14/2009 5:40:42 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Migraine
The only reason he won the Senate nomination was because he bought it out from under Ed Bryant. Corker was actively courted by TN Democrats for a decade to run under their label, quite telling.
17 posted on 10/14/2009 5:43:55 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385
They really ought to be called RINOState, based on their advocacy of positions which are based on a moralistic, statist philosophy which is antithetical to traditional Republican values.

What rot! Moralism isn't alien to "traditional Republican values." The problem with this "RINO" talk is that people like Nalle use it to very narrowly define "true" Republicanism as "what I like or believe."

18 posted on 10/14/2009 5:50:52 PM PDT by x
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To: x
I agree with about 95% of the article.

But I also agree wholeheartedly with secretagentman's posting of the five “RINOs”

Those five he posted tend to take to many Democrat party positions like healthcare and big government

19 posted on 10/20/2009 10:36:08 AM PDT by rasl04 (Reagan/Goldwater 2012)
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To: rasl04

to=too


20 posted on 10/20/2009 10:37:14 AM PDT by rasl04 (Reagan/Goldwater 2012)
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