[mnehring]

I think that he is right in that our actions do not pass Constitutional inspection.

Yet he was fine with supporting to use the Authorization of the Use of Force in his vote on Afghanistan (not a declaration of war) of course, then he spoke against it, then he supported it when comparing to Iraq.. he went back and forth on that. I noticed you didn't bold this:

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations

Breach of treaties and truces are 'offenses against the Laws of Nations' and congress is given a separate clause to 'define and punish' said offenses.

[dcwusmc]

“Breach of treaties and truces are ‘offenses against the Laws of Nations’ and congress is given a separate clause to ‘define and punish’ said offenses.”

Yeah, Matt, that’s what the Afghan resolution was: a punishment expedition. Then we started getting bogged down and now look at where we are. I think the resolution was more akin to “hot pursuit” than anything else and that’s fine. But when we have time to sit and mull things over and jawjack about stuff, we have time to draft a proper declaration of war. Like we should have in Iraq if things were so bad FOR US there.

[Big_Harry]

I didn't think that one applied to our being at war in Iraq and Afghanistan. While I am not a Ron Paul supporter, I do think that we need to have a congressionally declared war, if we are going to have our people killed, with a no holds barred attitude about winning the darned thing. The only way to win this conflict is with an iron willed resolve to win, and right now, we do not have that. This is a deja vu moment that brings back nightmares of Vietnam, a war which we could have, and should have won had it not been for political generals and pansy democrats.

True conservatives need to swallow their spit and get united against the common foe instead of wasting our ire on the likes of Ron Paul or this country will be gone forever.