[tlb]

>>>“The New American” is a John Birch Society publication.

Just in the last couple of weeks I’ve noticed various Bircher memes posted, mostly by new signups. I wondered if Kos was having another contest trying to put FR in a bad light with troll posts. But maybe instead the hoods are finally just coming off revealing who is what.

In the old days the Birchers attacked men such as Ike, accusing him of being a communist. The modern version seem to likewise spend most of their time attacking and undermining republicans. Essentially serving as a fifth column for the Obama’s of the world.

Bill Buckley had it exactly correct. Conservatism didn’t have a chance until the old Birchers were tossed aside into the trash where they belonged. History may need to repeat itself.

[RAO1125]

Yes, because the neoconservatives did SUCH a great job! </s>

[BGHater]

‘Bill Buckley had it exactly correct. Conservatism didn’t have a chance until the old Birchers were tossed aside into the trash where they belonged. History may need to repeat itself.’

Obviously we live in different worlds.

Fascism, Globalist, Big Brother is on the march and your implying some how that Buckley is right?

A Republican and a Conservative are not the same.

The Republicans have been the problem, not ‘Birchers’.

Open Borders, Billions for Aids to Africa, giving hundreds of Millions to the PA, Bailing out Corporations, TARP, Amnesty, DHS, etc.

Yeah, keep it up.

[IbJensen]

Bill Buckley had it exactly correct. Conservatism didn’t have a chance until the old Birchers were tossed aside into the trash where they belonged.

Buckley morphed himself into a neo-conservative and proved it when he stood solidly behind Jimmie Kahtah and endorsed the giveaway of the Panama Canal which is now manned by the Chicoms.

It was at that time that I canceled my subscription to NR and stopped listening to Buckley debates where syntax was as garbled as a New Deal Democrat.

[IbJensen]

Just in the last couple of weeks I've noticed various Bircher memes posted, mostly by new signups.

You haven't been very observant then. New Republic articles have been posted here by readers on a regular basis whenever the article's content was germane to a current topic.

[wolfcreek]

On yeah, we could trust Buckley.

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=BuckleyWF2

[Palin Republic]

The JBS boss devoted a book to debunking Buckley's memes:

"Fifty years ago, conservatism meant opposition to big government in all its manifestations and a belief in a non-interventionist foreign policy. Today, most people associate it with preserving the legacy of Harry Truman, Martin Luther King Jr., and Hubert Humphrey, while supporting American cultural, economic, and political hegemony across the globe. What conservativism means today is at odds for what it used to stand for. What is the reason? John Birch Society president, John F. McManus, puts the blame squarely on William F. Buckley in his excellent new book, William F. Buckley Jr., Pied Piper for the Establishment."

Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan succeeded in spite of Buckley and the Rockefeller Republicans, not because of them:

"The Birchers, the Randians, the libertarians – one by one they were led to the guillotine by the editors of National Review. Welch’s sin was that he saw the Vietnam disaster long before it occurred, and thus violated the central canon of the Cold War Right: the Randians, too, got in the way in the way of Buckley’s overriding principle: their influence would lead the GOP down the primrose path to “anarchic misanthropy,” as one of Buckley’s characters puts it, and so they, too, were dispatched. The libertarians were excommunicated on several occasions, and Rothbard, the most thoroughgoing exponent of laissez-faire capitalism since Ludwig von Mises, was excoriated as a “Leninist.”

The purge of dissident elements within the conservative movement did not lead to the triumph of the Right, however, but to the victory of “big government conservatism.” “We have a responsibility that when somebody hurts, government has got to move,” said George W. Bush on Labor Day this year. As Ramesh Ponnuru recently pointed out in National Review, FDR couldn’t have said it better. We have, says Ponnuru, been “swallowed by Leviathan” – and so, I would argue, has the conservative movement."