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President Mark Sanford Is Still Possible in 2012
North Star Writers Group ^ | 2009-06-28 | Paul Ibrahim

Posted on 06/28/2009 8:11:49 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

“No one’s going to save us dude. It’s up to us and us alone.”

These are the words of a text message I received from a fellow conservative upon the revelation that South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford had disappeared for a few days to spend time with his mistress in Argentina. After the cumulative disaster that were the 2008 GOP primaries, conservatives desperately thought that, for once, we might have an ardent conservative – particularly a fiscal conservative – run and actually capture the White House in 2012.

And this was not your garden-variety, self-proclaimed “conservative” Republican who interpreted conservatism as an ideology of merely slower government growth. No, this guy was the real deal. He fought to keep his state from accepting dirty “stimulus” funds from the federal government while other governors gobbled up the money in complete disregard for their supposed principles and for the well-being of the younger generations that must repay the debt. He has attended legislative sessions with piglets under his arms in demonstration of his ardent opposition to pork. He has walked the walk, and is still doing it.

Indeed, media personalities couldn’t be more frustrating when they proclaim that Sanford’s blunder is yet another blow to an already-aching GOP. The fact is that many conservatives didn’t regard Sanford’s affiliation with the GOP as anything beyond an annoying necessity. They viewed Sanford as being in the mold of Pat Toomey, Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn and Jeff Flake – you know, the guys who spend much of their time combating the Republican establishment. They are the guys who never see a scandal in their voracious hunt for smaller government and against politicians’ abuse of public office. The fact that Sanford made conservatives doubt even this already tiny group of political stars is beyond infuriating.

Sanford’s sin, like that of any adulterer, is absolutely nauseating – and, absent repentance, is deserving of a deeper circle of hell than Dante would ever ascribe to it. This is why only a few conservatives would trust Sanford again unless he cuts off all relations with his mistress, demonstrates genuine contrition, works fervently to rebuild his family and earns the forgiveness of his wife and kids.

And indeed if Sanford’s conversion is accepted as sincere even by his most wounded wife, who are we to deny him our support for any political pursuit based on this sin – especially when he has excelled more than most at his job as governor? Democrats never asked Bill Clinton to step down when he cheated on his wife, even when he explicitly lied under oath and to the entire country. Likewise, few if any Republicans withheld their vote from “heroic” John McCain in 2008 for cheating on his wife – and proceeding to marry another woman.

As far as affairs go, Sanford’s story is not among the worst – which does not take away from its intrinsic immorality, but raises questions as to why his treatment has been worse than usual. Some credit the difference to his supposed use of state assets for personal reasons. But the best his opponents have been able to find is that, on a completely legitimate commerce trip he took to Brazil and Argentina last year, he apparently made time to see his mistress. Yet politicians use such opportunity of being in a distant location for personal reasons all the time – and it’s only logical (unlike, say, dropping up to a quarter-million dollars solely to take the First Lady on a hours-long date in NYC).

From a public-duty perspective, Sanford’s greatest lapse of judgment was disappearing without much contact, but rhetoric and attack dogs aside, it’s really not that appalling for a governor to be unavailable for a few days – at least not a big enough deal to disqualify him from the presidency. It’s not like he hung out with a terrorist, or for 20 years espoused a church run by a conspiratorial bigot.

But it’s not really all about cheating and disappearing, of course. By sticking to the laws of economics and fiscal integrity, Sanford has managed to build enemies on both sides of the aisle. Since Obama’s election, but especially since Sanford’s rejection of porkulus funds, Democrats have feared Sanford as a definitively non-McCainiac presidential candidate who could energize conservatives against President Obama in 2012. They have been running ads against him. The third-ranking Democrat in the House played the racism card in response to Sanford’s statement that printing a lot of money could lead to hyper-inflation à la Zimbabwe.

The New York Times wildly sensationalized an article about Sanford by titling it “Governor Used State’s Money to Visit Lover,” while it went on to explain that he merely met up with his mistress while on a legitimate business development trip to Argentina.

And, a bit surprisingly, it seems that some simply have not overcome the embarrassment dealt to them by President Clinton. Also in the New York Times, Gail Collins wrote about a “lesson” to be learned from the Sanford story: “I’m thinking it’s time for the Republicans to apologize for putting us through the Clinton impeachment. We seem to have pretty well established that sexual stone-throwing is a dangerous sport.”

Wow. Never mind that Clinton was impeached on grounds of perjury and obstruction of justice. What is most disturbing is the apparent admission that the heat launched at Sanford is a form of revenge for what Clinton brought unto himself. This behavior makes even more sense in light of a recent Gallup poll showing that Democrats are five times as likely as Republicans to believe that marital infidelity is morally acceptable.

The fact is that even if Sanford was the only politician who has cheated on his spouse (which he most certainly is not), he still would not rank anywhere near the bottom of politicians’ ethical scale. Not because he is a moral giant, mind you, but because all the others are so, so far from being one.

A great majority of politicians, from both parties, continuously engage in wasteful spending, pork and other abuses of taxpayer money. They subsidize the businesses of their campaign donors and choke the rest. They take actions that they affirmatively believe will harm the economy if it will help their re-election. They are dirty.

Putting Sanford’s marital infidelity aside, the governor has been a hero to anyone who has ever paid taxes, and more importantly, anyone who wishes to live in a prosperous country. It may be for this reason that only 18 percent of South Carolina voters, even after the recent hullabaloo, say that Sanford’s ethical standards are lower than most politicians’. It is incredible then that so many seem to care more about Sanford’s sin in Argentina than about the hundreds of remaining politicians putting every American into debt for decades to come. Our priorities are more than skewed.

If a Mark Sanford presidency would look anything like the Mark Sanford governorship, and if Sanford would respect the small-government roots of the U.S. Constitution like he respected small-government principles in South Carolina, America would be better off than it would be under nearly any figure in the American political scene. Much, much better off.

And it is still possible. Following the debacle, Sanford said: “What I find interesting is the story of David, and the way in which he fell mightily, he fell in very very significant ways. But then picked up the pieces and built from there.” Any Christian, and most Americans must believe that aside from whether or not he will actually do so, Sanford is capable of picking up the pieces and rebuilding. He might never again be regarded as highly as he once was. But he could unquestionably be regarded higher than most in his league.


TOPICS: Candidates; General Discussion
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; lping; marksanford; realconservatives; sanford; sanford2012
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To: rabscuttle385

No. Not buying.


21 posted on 06/28/2009 8:29:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: tflabo
Give us one candidate with a little charisma but solid conservative with brains, heart, guts and knows how to convey the conservative message. Oh..that was Reagan!

Okay... here you go. But she's got a tough uphill battle against a press and country club RINO establishment that's got the long knives arrayed against her...


23 posted on 06/28/2009 8:30:47 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: rabscuttle385
No. His judgment calls are the basis of my no. He could have been blackmailed, he didn't let his staff know where he was if there was an emergency...not for an hour...no, for A WEEK!!!

No, this man may be the best guy in the neighborhood, but the Presidency of the United States of America MEANS SOMETHING TO ME. NO, he does NOT deserve it.

And I really liked the guy before this, too!

24 posted on 06/28/2009 8:32:32 PM PDT by NordP (BHO's new book, "To Serve Man/United States" --- NO NO NO....RUN....it's a COOKBOOK!)
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To: rabscuttle385

My problem with him is not the affair..big deal. I have a real problem with him leaving the state for five days. As President is he going to get the itch to go to South America for a week and not tell anyone. If he could ensure that this was a one time lapse than perhaps he might get my support again...I just have a real issue with Unauthorized Absenses...just ask my Sailors. lol.


25 posted on 06/28/2009 8:43:49 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: All

I knew those two set him up, Knotts was the one who called the paper and said he was missing.

http://www.thestate.com/sanford/story/844260.html

Nothing like getting outed by your own.


26 posted on 06/28/2009 8:47:52 PM PDT by AliVeritas ( Pray, Pray, Pray)
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To: rabscuttle385

Those e-mails he wrote were just sloppy...

I seriously question his intelligence and judgement..... not for the affair, but for openly e-mailing about it. As I type here on FR, I am aware someone might know it’s me... so I’m not going to say something stupid. How dumb could Sanford be?


27 posted on 06/28/2009 8:48:52 PM PDT by TorahTrueJew
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To: rabscuttle385

“President Mark Sanford Is Still Possible in 2012”

Um, no, and he certainly will not garner my or anyone in my family’s vote. Bet.


28 posted on 06/28/2009 8:50:52 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Nervous Tick

She’s beaten the country club Republicans before, but I don’t know how the Alaskan MSM treated her then.


29 posted on 06/28/2009 8:51:58 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: rabscuttle385
are you kidding me??????? If he ran in 2012 he would get crushed. Actually, I am sure the MSM would be pushing him hard.
30 posted on 06/28/2009 8:52:18 PM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: rabscuttle385

Would I support him over the False Messiah and his counterpart twin in the GOP, Slick Willard ? Of course, but he’s still too damaged now to seriously pursue the office and hope to win (as a Republican, but we’re always judged by different standards... though at least we actually possess standards). I do support him to complete his term as Governor, however, since Andre Bauer is far too risky and RINOish for us to permit ascend to the top job.


31 posted on 06/28/2009 8:59:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: rabscuttle385
President Mark Sanford Is Still Possible in 2012

"Time-Traveling Apes From the Year 3295 Rescue Abraham Lincoln from 1862 And Install Him as US President -- Possible in 2012"

Technically speaking, both are possible.

32 posted on 06/28/2009 8:59:32 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: rabscuttle385

Won’t happen. Same with Newton Gingrich. They had their chances, and neither would make good candidates against Obama. It’s a loss of credibility among the people whose support they would be required to have.


33 posted on 06/28/2009 9:03:19 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Nervous Tick

Exactly. It wasn’t but a few weeks ago that Bill Bennett and company were pooh-poohing Palin over Willow and then saying we need to here from heavy-weights like Sanford.

Obviously, Bennett didn’t know about Sanford’s indiscretions. But those are the sorts of things that, in Bill’s view, warrant dismissal. And he sounded pretty sure that Sanford was the sort of rock-solid condidate that he knew all about, inside and out. Wrong.

Palin, warts and all, is head-and-shoulders above these knuckleheads that babble nonsense or plant both feet squarely in it as soon as someone puts the notion of the Presidency in their heads.


34 posted on 06/28/2009 9:06:24 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m done with him.

Maybe i’m too oldfashioned. Or maybe i’m just a prude.
But i’ve been married for 22 years and have managed not to cheat. Its a choice. A choice not to betray someone who puts their trust in you.

If you will do that to your spouse, what will you do to your constituants?

Its very simple....if you CHOOSE to represent the american people and make your living on the taxpayers dime then please keep your sicko , perverted, corrupt lifestyles at bay for the extent of that service. thats all i ask....if your having trouble with that, then quit the job and look for a position in the private sector.


35 posted on 06/28/2009 9:07:52 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: rabscuttle385

LOL

Well he won’t have mine. Not only is he an adulterer which repelled me from Clinton, the man abandoned his office to fly out of the country to conduct this affair. Having his staff lie to constituents, the press, and anyone who sought answers where he was.


36 posted on 06/28/2009 9:08:47 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: rabscuttle385
No. Sanford displayed terrible judgment both in creating this mess and in his pathetic attempt to grovel his way out of it. He is not a leader, he does not command respect.

I wish him well in whatever endeavor he chooses after he puts politics behind him.

37 posted on 06/28/2009 9:09:59 PM PDT by TChad
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To: BradyLS

The list of disappointing Republicans is so long that it could start with Bennett (Bill and Senator UT Bob both for that matter), but I bet there’s competiong from Aa to Ba.


38 posted on 06/28/2009 9:10:05 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: rabscuttle385

Never.


39 posted on 06/28/2009 9:16:53 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: rabscuttle385

No, it’s not possible. Who said any publicity is good publicity?


40 posted on 06/28/2009 9:17:12 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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