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Why the GOP Must Lose: Nothing short of defeat will put it back on its limited government track
Reason magazine ^ | October 22, 2008 | Radley Balko

Posted on 10/22/2008 11:32:45 AM PDT by grundle

Why the Republicans Must Lose

Nothing short of defeat will put the GOP back on its limited government track

I grew up in a particularly conservative part of the already conservative state of Indiana. I voted for Bob Dole in 1996 and George Bush in 2000, generally because—though I'm not a conservative (I'm a libertarian)—I'd always thought the GOP was the party of limited government. By 2002, I was less sure of that. And by 2004, I was so fed up with the party that I did what I thought I'd never do—vote for an unabashed leftist for president.

Since then, "fed up" has soured to "given up." The Republican Party has exiled its Goldwater-Reagan wing and given up all pretense of any allegiance to limited government. In the last eight years, the GOP has given us a monstrous new federal bureaucracy in the Department of Homeland Security. In the prescription drug benefit, it's given us the largest new federal entitlement since the Johnson administration. Federal spending—even on items not related to war or national security—has soared. And we now get to watch as the party that's supposed to be "free market" nationalizes huge chunks of the economy's financial sector.

This isn't to say that Barack Obama would be any better. Government would undoubtedly grow under his watch. And from my libertarian perspective, he has been increasingly disappointing even on the issues where he's supposed to be good. We may not go to war with Iran in an Obama administration, but we'd likely become entrenched in a prolonged nation-building adventure in the Sudan. Obama's vote on the FISA bill and telecom immunity also suggests that, for all his criticisms of President Bush's use of executive power and assaults on civil liberties, Obama wouldn't be much better. On the drug war, Obama has promised to end the federal raids on medical marijuana clinics in states that have legalized the drug for treatment, but he wants to resurrect failed federal criminal justice block grant programs that have had some disastrous effects on civil liberties.

While I'm not thrilled at the prospect of an Obama administration (especially with a friendly Congress), the Republicans still need to get their clocks cleaned in two weeks, for a couple of reasons.

First, they had their shot at holding power, and they failed. They've failed in staying true to their principles of limited government and free markets. They've failed in preventing elected leaders of their party from becoming corrupted by the trappings of power, and they've failed to hold those leaders accountable after the fact. Congressional Republicans failed to rein in the Bush administration's naked bid to vastly expand the power of the presidency (a failure they're going to come to regret should Obama take office in January). They failed to apply due scrutiny and skepticism to the administration's claims before undertaking Congress' most solemn task—sending the nation to war. I could go on.

As for the Bush administration, the only consistent principle we've seen from the White House over the last eight years is that of elevating the American president (and, I guess, the vice president) to that of an elected dictator. That isn't hyperbole. This administration believes that on any issue that can remotely be tied to foreign policy or national security (and on quite a few other issues as well), the president has boundless, limitless, unchecked power to do anything he wants. They believe that on these matters, neither Congress nor the courts can restrain him.

That's the second reason the GOP needs to lose. American voters need to send a clear, convincing repudiation of these dangerous ideas.

If they do lose, the GOP would be wise to regroup and rebuild from scratch, scrap the current leadership, and, most importantly, purge the party of the "national greatness," neoconservative influence. Big-government conservatism has bloated the federal government, bogged us down in what will ultimately be a trillion-dollar war, and set us down the road to European-style socialism. It's hard to think of how Obama could be worse. He'll just be bad in different ways.

The truth is, unless you vote for a third-party candidate (which really isn't a bad idea), you don't have much of a choice this November. You can either endorse the idea of a massive, invasive, ever-encroaching federal government that's used to promote center-left ideology, or you can endorse the idea of a massive, invasive, ever-encroaching federal government that's used to promote center-right ideology.

Sadly, if the GOP does lose, it's likely to be interpreted not as a repudiation of the GOP's excesses, but as an endorsement of the Democrats'. When the only two parties who have a chance at winning both have a track record of expanding the size and scope of government, every election is likely to be interpreted as a win for big government—only the brand changes.

Voting yourself more freedom simply isn't an option, at least if you want your vote to be taken seriously (and I'm not denigrating any third parties here; I'm just reflecting reality).

Which brings me back to why the Republicans need to get throttled: A humiliated, decimated GOP that rejuvenates and rebuilds around the principles of limited government, free markets, and rugged individualism is really the only chance for voters to possibly get a real choice in federal elections down the road.

Of course, there's no guarantee that's how the party will emerge from defeat. But the Republican Party in its current form has forfeited its right to govern.


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To: yazoo
McCain my not be the perfect Republican, but he sure beats Obama.

While I agree with that statement, how much more liberal are we going to go? After Bush, I was told repeatedly here that we'd get a conservative to vote for. McCain isn't even close. He's even more to the left of Bush. Next time, will I get the choice of a socialist and someone like Pelosi with an (R)? (I used to say Kennedy, but that's a mute point now)
141 posted on 10/22/2008 2:13:46 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Fiji Hill

Fiji Hill writes - “I’m afraid that “cure” will be much worse than the disease.”

BUMP!


142 posted on 10/22/2008 2:14:10 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: grundle
Nothing short of defeat will put the GOP back on its limited government track

The GOP has never been on a limited government track. Certainly not in my lifetime.

143 posted on 10/22/2008 2:14:39 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: grundle
In before the zetz

Ron Freakin Paul, imagine my surprise.

144 posted on 10/22/2008 2:15:33 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (To Colin Powell: How does it FEEL to be a traitor?)
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To: lainie

Well he darn sure is not for SOCIALISM. Which is EXACTLY what we will get if folks vote 3rd party.


145 posted on 10/22/2008 2:16:18 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: wildbill
Meanwhile the Dems take over the country, the IRS, the Supreme Court, and the Defense Department.

And if you think the RINO McCain won't reach across the aisle to Teddy Kennedy, you've forgotten how McCain's cheated on the GOP more often than Bill's cheated on Hillary.

146 posted on 10/22/2008 2:16:45 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Will Bush, Bernanke or Paulson let Uncle Sam handle their personal wealth?)
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To: jrooney
I will not accept it. You want to be a quitter and a bitcher, feel free. I will stand and fight. Out of my way coward.

May I ask what you are fighting for? Looks to me like a liberal with an (R). Especially coupled with the fact that you insist on using insults against a poster that respectfully disagreed with you - you are acting just like the libs.

I'm backing McCain because the alternative is unthinkable. But I can face reality and know that he will stab us in the back repeatedly once in office. Amnesty will be in the first 100 days, you know. Now, I fully expect you to unleash your list of insults on me, sans intellectual discourse.
147 posted on 10/22/2008 2:17:02 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Just pray that Jehovah will forgive you.
:o)


148 posted on 10/22/2008 2:17:27 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (To Colin Powell: How does it FEEL to be a traitor?)
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To: wildbill
“We have to destroy the party in order to save it” thiking. ... That is so dangerous an attitude that I cannot think that anyone but an irrational person would expouse it.

I guess Washington, Jefferson, and Adams were all irrational then.
149 posted on 10/22/2008 2:18:25 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: grundle

I’ve also thought the same when i recall how we got back on track after only 2 years of Clinton and the GOP landslide in DC. With the libs of the supreme court the older/ill ones, chances are good that any appointees will be of them and we can keep our 4 solid conservatives.

However, now I am worried about the extremism of the libs now like obama and his followers who plan to put into place a permanent majority by the following:

1.give into union demands for card balloting, thereby increasing union ( pro-democrat) membership

2. allowing 15 million illegals to become citizens, who will be beholding to the Democrats.

3. opening up the prisons and allowing felons to vote, who are overwhelmingly black (95% will vote for Obama)

4.raising the fairness doctrine so average americans will be allowed only the MSM to hear the news (i.e. - keep them lobotomized like the Dems want)

5. brainwashing of the education system to keep growing more of their kind in our schools(ignorant and victimized)

6. increasing exponentially the size of the US govt, whose employees vote overwhelmingly Democratic

7. my most frightening, which is achieving the magic threshold of 50% of the voting citizenry either working for the Government or receiving welfare from rest of the citizens. Once this threshold is exceeded, we can not go back as there will be always a majority that will vote themselves a raise on the backs of those who contribute.

For these reasons, we cannot accept an Obama election and must stop this monster NOW.


150 posted on 10/22/2008 2:18:34 PM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: E. Cartman

Lol. I am glad this steams someone else’s shorts, like it does mine, shakes head. I might be here all afternoon, bumping good posts, and bashing fools...


151 posted on 10/22/2008 2:19:07 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: MEGoody
Spoken like someone who wants socialized medicine.

To all the GOP Kool-Aid drinkers: You're too late. What precisely would you call a bailout of $700,000,000,000 of tax payer money to wealthy banks if not socialism?

152 posted on 10/22/2008 2:19:27 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Will Bush, Bernanke or Paulson let Uncle Sam handle their personal wealth?)
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To: E. Cartman
Which is precisely what's been said since first electing the nebbish Poppy Bush...and how has that worked out for you?

It's worked out so well, that we now have the 3rd most liberal Republican in the senate as our candidate.
153 posted on 10/22/2008 2:20:10 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: E. Cartman

Well, heck. I should have read a little more carefully.


154 posted on 10/22/2008 2:21:40 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: bestintxas
However, now I am worried about the extremism of the libs now like obama and his followers who plan to put into place a permanent majority by the following: 1.give into union demands for card balloting, thereby increasing union ( pro-democrat) membership 2. allowing 15 million illegals to become citizens, who will be beholding to the Democrats. 3. opening up the prisons and allowing felons to vote, who are overwhelmingly black (95% will vote for Obama) 4.raising the fairness doctrine so average americans will be allowed only the MSM to hear the news (i.e. - keep them lobotomized like the Dems want) 5. brainwashing of the education system to keep growing more of their kind in our schools(ignorant and victimized) 6. increasing exponentially the size of the US govt, whose employees vote overwhelmingly Democratic 7. my most frightening, which is achieving the magic threshold of 50% of the voting citizenry either working for the Government or receiving welfare from rest of the citizens. Once this threshold is exceeded, we can not go back as there will be always a majority that will vote themselves a raise on the backs of those who contribute.

Although I agree in part and will be backing McCain so Obama doesn't get in, I have to point out that #2 will happen with McAmnesty, #5 is already there and unlikely to change with McCain, and #7 is close as well. The other reasons are solid.
155 posted on 10/22/2008 2:21:53 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: grundle

“I’m voting for Ron Paul, because I want the government to get smaller, not bigger.”

I saw a yard sign which said:

“Use your brain, vote for McCain”

That is my advice for you. McCain has been a force in congress for reduced goverment spending and size. Certainly more so than Obama.

So if that is truly what you want, you would vote for the viable candidate most closely supporting your position.

If you use your brain.


156 posted on 10/22/2008 2:23:10 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: kidd

It amazes me that MOST Democrats, and some Conservatives do not get just how dangerous the Junior Senator, and his friends are.


157 posted on 10/22/2008 2:24:35 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: E. Cartman
You're too late.

Um, so you think we already have socialized medicine?

Wow. Just wow.

158 posted on 10/22/2008 2:26:42 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: dogcaller

Indeed. And with the suppression of free speech already occurring, we will be sure to see even more big changes in all of our futures.


159 posted on 10/22/2008 2:28:14 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Jim Robinson

Why that house must burn down: Nothing short of total combustion today will prevent it from burning tomorrow


160 posted on 10/22/2008 2:28:17 PM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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