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The Palins’ un-American activities
Salon ^ | Oct 8, 08 | David Talbot

Posted on 10/09/2008 10:13:07 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

“My government is my worst enemy. I’m going to fight them with any means at hand.”

This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that’s the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. (“Keep up the good work,” Palin told AIP members. “And God bless you.”)

.AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark told me recently that Sarah Palin is her kind of gal. “She’s Alaskan to the bone … she sounds just like Joe Vogler.”

So who are these America-haters that the Palins are pallin’ around with?

Before his strange murder in 1993, party founder Vogler preached armed insurrection against the United States of America. Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, “When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion. They think they own [Alaska]. There comes a time when people will choose to die with honor rather than live with dishonor. That time may be coming here. Our goal is ultimate independence by peaceful means under a minimal government fully responsive to the people. I hope we don’t have to take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights, look out, we’re ready to die.”

This quote is from “Coming Into the Country,” by John McPhee, who traipsed around Alaska’s remote gold mining country with Vogler for his 1991 book. The violent-tempered secessionist vowed to McPhee that if any federal official tried to stop him from polluting Alaska’s rivers with his earth-moving equipment, he would “run over him with a Cat and turn mosquitoes loose on him while he dies.”

Vogler wasn’t just a blowhard either. He put his secessionist ideas into action, working to build AIP membership to 20,000 — an impressive figure by Alaska standards — and to elect party member Walter Hickel as governor in 1990.

Vogler’s greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States “tyranny” before the entire world and to demand Alaska’s freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

That’s right … Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.

AIP leaders allege that Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow secessionist, was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he could reach his U.N. platform. “The United States government would have been deeply embarrassed,” by Vogler’s U.N. speech, darkly suggests Clark. “And we can’t have that, can we?”

The Republican ticket is working hard this week to make Barack Obama’s tenuous connection to graying, ’60s revolutionary Bill Ayers a major campaign issue. But the Palins’ connection to anti-American extremism is much more central to their political biographies.

Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted support just months ago.

Where’s the outrage, Sarah Palin has been asking this week, in her attacks on Obama’s fuzzy ties to Ayers? The question is more appropriate when applied to her own disturbing associations.

About the writer David Talbot is the founder of Salon. He is the author of the New York Times Bestseller, “Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years,” which will be released next week in paperback by Free Press.


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To: an amused spectator
And you show yourself to be a moron. Anyone who uses dude has not reached puberty. On top of that you have been routinely been beaten up. The only way you get satisfaction is by playing computer games so you don't have to face the reality of your miserable little life.
41 posted on 10/09/2008 10:37:27 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

n00b.


42 posted on 10/09/2008 10:38:13 PM PDT by an amused spectator (The VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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To: MeanMachine

Mr. Machine, I think you’re RAM section has a virus.


43 posted on 10/09/2008 10:39:13 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: blackbart.223
Anyone who uses dude has not reached puberty.

Yeah, I started posting on Free Republic when I was two years old.

Idiot.

44 posted on 10/09/2008 10:39:54 PM PDT by an amused spectator (The VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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To: an amused spectator

Oh obviously...I too was being sarcastic. Just pointing out that a “grand marshal” leads a parade, a field marshal an army.


45 posted on 10/09/2008 10:40:26 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: A message

I haven’t had an asinine comment like that for quite awhile either. Next thread your tutor helps you read, try getting them to help you discuss the issue.


46 posted on 10/09/2008 10:42:13 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: jddqr
"OIC."

How about Oh I see. That works much better if you can spell.

47 posted on 10/09/2008 10:42:41 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: americanophile

Good catch! I was awestruck at the sheer number of IBTZs for Rennes, and didn’t make the connection. :-)


48 posted on 10/09/2008 10:42:41 PM PDT by an amused spectator (The VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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To: Rennes Templar
If Obama wins, it will be time to expand the AIP. Only now, it will be the American Independence Party.
50 posted on 10/09/2008 10:45:11 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Rennes Templar
Hey, I kinda like these Alaskan secessionists. It sounds like a peasants revolt. Yeehaw! Grab the pitchforks and torches!

But seriously... there's a big difference between the Weather Underground and the AIP. The AIP never advocated violence. In fact, they didn't even exclusively advocate secession.

51 posted on 10/09/2008 10:45:13 PM PDT by GipperGal (Moose Burgers and Alaska Amber for everyone on November 5th!)
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To: blackbart.223
Yawn. You bore me. I'm going to retire for the night and allow you to foam away in your incorrect conclusion that Rennes is a troll.

Have a good evening, bb223.

52 posted on 10/09/2008 10:46:12 PM PDT by an amused spectator (The VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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To: blackbart.223

“He lied about it I suppose. Trolls pull this sort of crap all the time.”

FreeRepublic average IQ is 125. Before you joined it was 165.


53 posted on 10/09/2008 10:48:57 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: an amused spectator
"Yeah, I started posting on Free Republic when I was two years old."

It is apparent your intellect has not gone past that age. Why do people like you need to pull this crap. You can't get a girl friend is my guess. Git rid of those zits and you might get a crack at it.

54 posted on 10/09/2008 10:49:56 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Rennes Templar

It’s a bit depressing how so many longtime Freepers failed to detect your obvious sarcasm. I suspect the Presidential campaign combined with the economic situation is getting to them.


55 posted on 10/09/2008 10:50:00 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: GipperGal

The stretch to compare the two is ridiculously long.


56 posted on 10/09/2008 10:50:48 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: SMCC1
It took 10 minutes of research to come to the exact same conclusion that the AIP was a libertarian leaning affiliate of the Constitution Party. I was even able to discover that bit about Wally Hickel (thanks to Wikipedia). If I can do it, you'd think the geniuses at Salon could do the same.

No matter. They've only made themselves ridiculous again.

57 posted on 10/09/2008 10:50:57 PM PDT by GipperGal (Moose Burgers and Alaska Amber for everyone on November 5th!)
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To: jddqr
"How about STFU?"

Is that the best you can do? Go pop those zits and maybe a girl will look at you. But I doubt it.

58 posted on 10/09/2008 10:53:03 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Rennes Templar

I see they’re still passing their days drunk and loaded over at the Saloon.


59 posted on 10/09/2008 10:55:12 PM PDT by Babu
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To: Arthur McGowan

At a time when all Americans are united in their disgust and anger at the bums in Washington DC, a column highlighting Todd Palin’s support for an organization that advocates divorce from the federal government only serves to remind voters why they really like the Palins.


60 posted on 10/09/2008 10:55:22 PM PDT by GipperGal (Moose Burgers and Alaska Amber for everyone on November 5th!)
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