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PAUL BLAMES FEDERAL RESERVE FOR WEAK ECONOMY
Fox News ^ | Jan. 21, 2008 | AP

Posted on 01/22/2008 10:15:43 AM PST by ToryNotion

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To: Axenolith
The long term historical trend is that the FED has depreciated the dollar by about 98.5%, if he reminds you of “an Economic Global Warming-esque alarmist”, it’s only because you’re in dire need of a clue...

Amen.

The Fed needs to go.

Let the market determine interest rates.

101 posted on 01/23/2008 10:12:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: mnehrling
Yea, the most powerful economy in the history of the world with an overall positive growth trend for the past century is an indication of the failure of Keynesian economics.

We are wealthy despite the level of socialism we have in our economy.

How are the countries that use Austrian Economic theory doing again?

There are none that I am aware of, since nations still like to tax and spend.

102 posted on 01/23/2008 10:16:05 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Brilliant
No. You can keep the money supply within certain bounds.

If you miss the bounds, then it is inflation and you are causing the boom-bust cycle.

And men cannot know what the money supply should be on the market.

103 posted on 01/23/2008 10:18:03 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
Frankly, I do not see anything ‘racist’ in anything you posted, it wasn’t PC, but could you show me something that was blatantly racist.
104 posted on 01/23/2008 10:22:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: ksen
I can’t believe there are people here on FR that are actually extolling the virtues of Keynesian economics.

Stunning isn't it!

So much for conservatism and limited government!

105 posted on 01/23/2008 10:24:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: oblomov
Ah, but as a famous Republican said, “we are all Keynesians now...”

Wasn't that Nixon, the guy who gave us wage and price controls?

106 posted on 01/23/2008 10:25:55 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

Thank you for that useless rant.


107 posted on 01/23/2008 10:27:46 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: ToryNotion
Wasn’t the post WW2 West German economy based on Austrian Economics? I’d say they did pretty well till they embraced the Social Democrat platform.

Erhard, a student of Mises, removed wage and price controls during the weekend so the occupation forces couldn't stop them.

That was the catalyst for the W. German economic miracle.

108 posted on 01/23/2008 10:32:02 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“If you miss...”

Yes, that is true, but on the other hand, the Fed does a better job of keeping the growth in the money supply within the appropriate range than simply leaving it to it devices.


109 posted on 01/24/2008 3:37:52 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Yes, that is true, but on the other hand, the Fed does a better job of keeping the growth in the money supply within the appropriate range than simply leaving it to it devices.

The best 'device' is the market, which means, a gold based money supply not open to the manipulations of Government.

110 posted on 01/24/2008 5:56:17 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration

What do you mean “gold based?” You mean that the Fed can issue dollars only if it has an equal dollar amount of gold in Fort Knox? If so, we would be in perputual recession since that doesn’t grow very fast.


111 posted on 01/24/2008 9:15:53 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
What do you mean “gold based?” You mean that the Fed can issue dollars only if it has an equal dollar amount of gold in Fort Knox? If so, we would be in perputual recession since that doesn’t grow very fast.

No, the price of the dollar in circulation would increase in value, like any other good in demand.

The reason the price of gold as risen in relation to the dollar is because that the price of the dollar has decreased so there are too many dollars in circulation.

The laws of supply and demand operate on money like any other good.

What Has Government Done to Our Money?/Case for a 100 Percent Gold Dollar

AUTHOR: Rothbard, Murray N.

http://www.mises.org/store/-P224C1.aspx

112 posted on 01/24/2008 12:35:21 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: mnehrling

Governments destroy the value of their currency. They do so in order to finance expansion abroad and bread and circuses at home. They just do. Thats not a trend. Its historical fact.


113 posted on 01/24/2008 12:46:29 PM PST by greybull
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To: greybull

Yea, a lower value currency empowers expansion abroad and “bread and circuses” at home.. I can see the circus part as it makes the media.. but the rest.. well, let’s just say you give me 25% of your summer vacation money (I’ll devalue your savings) and you can go take your trip and see if that destruction of value helps you finance anything.


114 posted on 01/24/2008 12:49:05 PM PST by mnehring
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To: TCats

I think your econ 101 book (even one based on Keynesian ideas) would tell you that when you lower the price of something you see an increased demand of that thing. The fed held the price of borrowing dollars too low for too long and suckered a lot of consumers into borrowing. The Fed will always get rates wrong by definition because they don’t have perfect information on the markets natural supply and demand of dollars at any point in time. Therefore they will always cause “malinvestment” and exacerbate boom/bust cycles. (See Hayek on The Problem of Socialist Calculation.)


115 posted on 01/24/2008 1:00:49 PM PST by greybull
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To: fortheDeclaration

“No, the price of the dollar in circulation would increase in value, like any other good in demand.”

Then it’s not based on the price of gold. Actually, this is how it already works. The price of the dollar does adjust. It’s merely that the Fed influences the money supply, and therefore has some ability to influence whether the price of the dollar adjusts upward or downward.


116 posted on 01/24/2008 1:22:24 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Then it’s not based on the price of gold. Actually, this is how it already works. The price of the dollar does adjust. It’s merely that the Fed influences the money supply, and therefore has some ability to influence whether the price of the dollar adjusts upward or downward.

Now, the dollar is not tied to gold, but gold is rising in price to the decreasing value of the dollar since people still look to gold as money.

A gold backed currancy would prevent the Fed from destroying the dollar by inflation.

There is always enough money in circulation since money just rises in value if there is less of it and lowers in value if there is more of it as it relates to the goods it can buy.

In other words, a dollar that is worth a dollar (in gold) will go alot further then a paper dollar worth only 10cents.

117 posted on 01/24/2008 1:26:55 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yes, as well as closing the Federal Reserve gold window.


118 posted on 01/25/2008 2:42:52 AM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov
Yes, as well as closing the Federal Reserve gold window.

A real genius!

119 posted on 01/25/2008 4:12:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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