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To: marsh_of_mists

“You think that Reagan misunderstood Ron Paul’s views? Or did Ron Paul’s views change in the past 25 years?”

I’m saying Ron Paul wouldn’t have done what Reagan did in his tenture. And I doubt Reagan would do what Ron Paul wants to do....now.


“In any case, I see more of LBJ and Wilson in the Bush foreign policy than I see of Reagan and Goldwater.”

I’m not a fan of Bush. If the dems didn’t exist...I would vote against him any day of the week.


“Did Reagan attack the USSR or did he let it collapse economically.”

Is that a question or a statement?

He fought them indirectly in multiple fronts (read up on his presidency). And he put them in an arms race...depletely them of funds. While inplanting multiple propaganda radio shows throughout the communist regime. So yes he did, but not directly. : )

An excellent president on foreign policy, and apparently a fan Sun Tzu. Bush skipped that book.

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“Having a strong defense doesn’t mean policing the world.”

You really think Reagan didn’t do anything like that?...Seriously!? Man, we must be reading different history books.

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“Yeah, Reagan supported FDR and Paul would have supported him, since he went to war only with nations that declared war on us and after CONGRESS had then declared war on them!”

Wow...don’t know much about that era?

Previous to Japan’s alliance with Germany, we held a rather neutral policy with Japan. Now even though they were slaughteing the Chinese people, we didn’t take a definitive stance. The moment FDR saw an opening to get war, he did.

That’s when Japan allied themselves with Germany. FDR immediately changed his policy on Japan, and said it was bad that they were killing Chinese people...lol...as though that was the reason. Churchill was begging him to enter the war, and FDR wanted to. They met several times over this issue. So FDR set-up various sanctions that would cripple the Japanese war machine.

The Japanese had no alternative but to fight us at that point. FDR got his war. Thankful. Otherwise we would have been residing under the Nazi’s and Japanese.

Politicians outside of FDR’s circle wanted to ignore everything, and not even sanction Japan. The war with them wouldn’t have happened...Germany would have conquered Britain, and would have expanded their empire east. These politicians remind me of Ron Paul.


91 posted on 12/17/2007 12:25:27 AM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Rick_Michael

I’m not sure what you are saying here. That policing the world is a good thing? The fact of the matter is, the primary reason the USSR collapsed was because its own economic flaws. Our military interventions in places like Korea, Vietnam, and Grenada did not help these matters.

If FDR was so adamant about going into WWII, it’s interesting that he had to wait for Pearl Harbor to get the support and still had to wait for Germany and Italy to declare war on the US and for Congress to then declare war on them. That’s the constitutional way to go about it. How different things are now, when Congress washes its hands of military responsabilities. Paul would make Congress actually declare war before he, as Commander-in-Cheif, went to war. But he would not encourage unnecessary interventions in the internal affairs of other nations. What is wrong with that?


110 posted on 12/17/2007 12:42:26 AM PST by marsh_of_mists
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