Posted on 11/14/2007 4:06:53 AM PST by George W. Bush
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There are plenty of reasons to be perturbed when loons and hate-mongers support a candidacy. But this game of guilt-by-association can be played endlessly. I tend to place greater emphasis on loons and hate-mongers that candidates actively seek out. Pat Robertson is a loon and an anti-Semite and a vicious homophobe who blamed Americans for 9/11. Giuliani didn't receive some unsolicited money from him; he actually stood on a platform and embraced him. Why one standard for Paul and another for Giuliani? If Obama embraced Louis Farrakhan as a supporter, you think Goldfarb and Kirchick would be silent? They'd have a cow because it's unthinkable. But naked bigotry is more than thinkable in today's GOP: it's integral to it. What's the difference between Farrakhan and Robertson? I can't see any. Maybe Goldfarb and Kirchick can spell it out.
Giuliani also promoted and endorsed a seriously mobbed up man to be head of the DHS; he fully embraces and employs a priest credibly accused of sex abuse of a minor (and refuses to distance himself from him); and actively endorses torture as a foreign policy weapon. Jamie Kirchick actually supports Giuliani for president - but is hyper-ventilating about a $500 check that Paul hasn't even decided what to do with! There you have the massive double-standards on the neocon right.
Here's an idea: when Giuliani disowns his abusing priest, his mafia-consigliere and his anti-Semitic nutcase, Ron Paul should send back the $500. Deal?
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Absolutely, I don't think Pat Robertson is a Jewhater. His 9/11 comments were stupid.
Obviously we disagree.
At this point there’s no reason to return the funds, it would clearly be solely politically motivated. This is an ethical decision that anyone can make in an instant.
Haven’t read any comments yet, but I’m expecting the cognitive dissonance of the Paul-bashers to reach pretty high levels here.
It's just that you 4 or 5 hardcore Paul bashers spend 90% of your posts on Paul who has no chance while mostly ignoring Rudy who has a very good chance of winning the nomination and f'ing up the GOP beyond belief. Things that make you go hmmmmm....
As for the GOP and your selective outrage, I will point out again that these same hate groups latched onto Pat Buchanan in the 2000 race, sure they had found their man. He proved them wrong by selecting a black woman as his VP candidate. They promptly fled to supporting Bush and they did participate in the Battle for Florida when Black, the St*rmfr*nt leader (and his young son who ran St*rmfr*nt For Kids) both went at least one of the 2000 rallies in Floriduh including Black leading the group who drove Jesse Jackson off the stage at one of the big pro-Gore rallies. Bush also received support from the leader of Christian Identity and other notorious racists. So why aren't you applying the same standard to Bush/Cheney that you try to apply to Ron Paul?
Estimated
Jewish PopulationTotal
Population*Jewish Percent
of TotalFlorida 653,435 17,789,864 3.7 Iowa 6,140 2,966,334 0.2 Michigan 87,665 10,120,860 0.9 Nevada 69,600 2,414,807 2.9 New Hampshire 9,970 1,309,940 0.8 South Carolina 11,225 4,255,083 0.3 Wyoming 430 509,294 0.1 Total *6,452,030 296,410,404 2.2
Jewish Population of the United States by State - JewishVirtualLibrary.com
And in other news, water is still wet.
I use far more than 90% of my posts on Paul, you know that having checked them.
If you think accusing Giuliani and Robertson of being antisemites is going to damage them you're an idiot.
Go hmmmmmmm all you want, when you come up with a viable conspiracy, feel free to post it.
Oh, great. Another spittle-flecked, twenty-five minute diatribe about "international banking interests," coming right up.
I’m not certain what particular “good” it does to “Well,,these guys are worse...”
Judith Regan just filed that 100 million dollar lawsuit based on the idea that NewsCorp wanted her to lie to protect Jules’s support for the shamed Bernie Kerrick, that is pretty serious allegation of pro Rudy Bias, however it has nothing to to with Ron Paul.
If Paul wishes to accept money from Stormfront etc once it becomes obvious where the money is coming from, then he had better strap on his armor and prepare to take the slings and arrows of unfavorable media opinion.
For me, I don’t care that he took money from Stormfront, they are merely one more political group in America, they can use their money to speak same as any other group, now there are people who do care, and a childish “Pat and Jooles” comparison is trying to play an outrage card that doesn’t exist and is foolish to try and use.
I'm clueless what Buchanan has to do with anything, he wasn't a Republican in 2000 so neonazi support is irrelevant to the GOP.
I've criticized Buchanan numerous times as to past conduct, and have pointed to his Holocaust denial article in Spotlight, Willis Carto's predecessor to American Free Press who advertises Paul as columnist, and his suggestion, rejected, that the GOP embrace parts of David Dukes constituency, another Paul supporter, as amongst the reasons for the roughly 70% drop in Jewish Republican votes between 1988 and 1992. I'm consistant on the issue.
And I acknowledge your contension that Jew voters aren't worth worrying about, there aren't enough of them.
And your contempt for the Republican Jewish Coalition.
Typical hard left DailyKospositions.
I bet Freedom's Watch pi**es you off too, those lousy neocons, running pro-Petraeus ads.
No conspiracy at all, I'm pretty sure you're a closet Rudy fan.
Ron Paul and his folk know everything.
I notice you didn’t deny it.
I'm pretty sure you're right.
Critics, in particular Jewish Democrats, note that a large majority of Jews have voted Democratic in federal elections in the past 20 years, according to exit polls. Based on exit polls, the only ethnic group more pro-Democratic than Jews are African-Americans.
In the 2000 presidential election, exit polls indicated that only 19% of Jews voted for the George W. Bush, while 79% voted for Al Gore (with 2% voting for Ralph Nader).
In the 2006 federal elections, a CNN exit poll indicated that 87% of Jews voted Democratic.[3]
In certain state and local elections, Republicans have received greater support from the Jewish community. In the 2005 electon for Mayor of New York City, Republican Candidate Michael Bloomberg received 51% of the Jewish vote. [4]In the 2003 Recall election in California, an estimated 31% of Jews voted for Republican Candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger.[5]
In the 1980 Presidential election, 39% of Jews voted for Republican candidate Ronald Reagan. However, Republicans have not received even a plurality of the Jewish vote since 1924.[6]
You do realize that regan was fired in 2006 after writing that OJ Simpson “I did it” book, she was fired by Harper Collins first, for saying that “A Cabal was working against her at the company” whether she said “Jewish” or not is in doubt, but the fact that she said “Cabal” is not in doubt.
As well as for using her publishing division Reganbooks, to publish the failed OJ simpson book.
And irony of irony, Judith Regan is Jewish herself...
Ron Paul will accept support from unsavory places.
Rudy Giuliani and Pat Robertson are antisemites, you’ve called me an anti-Semite too, far more reprehensible than that anyone Paul accepts support from.
In that vein, the Republican Jewish Coalition should be criticized, and Jews don’t vote for Republicans anyway, so who cares what they think.
Got ya!
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