To: Rush4U
Scared?
Its statements like that make RP supporters seem nuts (to put it bluntly). It appears there can be no conversation about his policies and why someone may or may not like him as a candidate for president.
I can not support a man who has such disregard for a stern/forceful forgein policy. I can not support a candidate that does not support Israel.
I can not support a candidate who blames US for 9/11.
4 posted on
09/16/2007 6:16:19 AM PDT by
svcw
(There is no plan B.)
To: svcw
A few large nicer photos from SLC.
As so often, you can't help but notice all the young people attracted to Ron Paul's message.
To: svcw; lormand
I never said I support Ron Paul for President, but he has been consistently conservative on many issues (unlike RudyMcRomny's recent extreme make over(s) ).
17 posted on
09/16/2007 6:42:29 AM PDT by
Rush4U
To: svcw
"It appears there can be no conversation about his policies..."
Whose fault is that? When the RINO element started right off in the beginning with the ad hominems, that killed any hope for reasoned rational conversation right there and then. Why do you feel the need to bring out the nut perjurative and use it against those with whom you disagree? You must know that it makes you look immature, and that it isn't going to make one of us change his mind. Call me a nut enough times and that tells me you don't want to talk. I'm going to walk away rather than let you insult me endlessly. If you really want to talk then grow up and learn to talk about the issues without tossing insults. I don't call you a nut for not agreeing with my view of things. I simply know and accept that you don't agree. At worst, I'll tell you that you are wrong and I'll try to tell you why. When you call me a nut, you don't have to tell me why I'm a nut and you get out of having to tell me why I'm wrong. That's not a conversation, it's a waste of time.
"I can not support a man who has such disregard for a stern/forceful forgein policy."
Then you wouldn't have supported G. Washington or a principle he held. Paul is only saying what Washington said, have commerce with other nations, otherwise stay out of their internal affairs and avoid entangling alliances. If you can't agree with that then we will just have to be resigned to permanent disagreement on that point.
"I can not support a candidate that does not support Israel."
Well then don't. It's just as simple as that. Paul is a constitutionalist and I will support him for that reason. He would attempt to find the clause in the Constitution that authorizes Congress to support our favorite pet foreign nations and directs the President to do so. He would not find it because it isn't there. Perhaps Congress could pass a constitutional amendment for supporting Israel. Otherwise we are exercising arbitrary government and arbitrary government is what we wished to get away from in 1776.
"I can not support a candidate who blames US for 9/11."
We have corrected this error before and we can go on correcting it as many times as we need to until those of you who are slow to get the news get informed. Paul never blamed US for 9/11. Paul is citing, and quoting, CIA analysis (and the 911 commission) which concludes that certain foreign policies of certain factions that have control of the US government lead to increased radicalization and militization of peoples elsewhere who then go on to carry out terror attacks against us and our interests around the world. If you don't like what these conclusions suggest, you should take it up with the CIA, not Paul.
Paul is committing no crime by citing this CIA analysis. Yet people like you hear it the way you want to hear it and then you spread the disinformation that Paul thought the idea up all on his own to blame the entire US and everybody living here. That's just wrong.
35 posted on
09/16/2007 9:13:39 AM PDT by
Jason_b
(Click jason_b to the left here and read something about People v. De La Guerra 40 Cal. 311)
To: svcw
Uhh, Ron Paul supports Israel. He wants to stop restraining them so they can nuke Iran and Syria if they continue to attack.
All anyone else offers is more ass-kissing. It is insulting to see Israeli leaders shaking hands with murderers in the Rose Garden while Palestinian terrorists carry M-16’s made in USA paid for with USA tax dollars.
We could support Israel by taking off their handcuffs and letting them defend themselves. They have 100 nukes. Let them drop a few on Iran and Syria. It’s their neighborhood after all.
56 posted on
09/16/2007 9:31:59 PM PDT by
t_skoz
("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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