Ron Paul wins Strafford County NH straw poll (2nd landslide this weekend)[208 votes]

Ron Paul 2008 ^ | 8-19-07 | Ron Paul 2008

[bcsco]

Are you so anal retentive that the concept of humor escapes you?

Humor that mocks man? No. Humor that mocks God? Yes. For shame on you.

[ejonesie22]

Phil, your responses that I have observed paint a very interesting picture...

[ejonesie22]

Thanks, I’ll take that as high priase.

[Oberon]

You have not idea how absurd a response this is from you...

Oh, I'm quite aware of its absurdity. If you want a better answer, however, you'll have to articulate your criticisms of Paul and his campaign rather more explicitly. Calling him "...a JOKE" is rather difficult to rebut with any kind of precision.

[Oberon]

Hoping several hundred border guards and a fence is enough to protect us from the determined is just plain ignorant.

Yeah, THAT'S what Paul pins his national security hopes on... [rolls eyes]

[Oberon]

2) Because conservatives care about the good name of our movement and choose not to be slandered or libeled with the suggestion that the paleopeacecreep and libertoonian moron Ron Paul and his surrender monkey foreign policy have ANYTHING whatsoever to do with actual conservatism. Cowardice is NOT conservative.

This is political analysis of the Rush Limbaugh school. Inventing vaguely clever-sounding epithets to put down a candidate you don't want to see win...it's worthy of grade school. You should be proud.

Oh, and by the way... ARE NOT!!!

[ejonesie22]

Well then tell me what else he has, what does he plan to do about the spread of missiles and WMDs? How is he going going to stop the determined? If we pull off the world stage, if we no longer intervene before the worst happens, if we withdraw our presence, what is he going to replace it with?

And before you answer with the “isolationist vs interventionist” mime, I know about that. I see from many post over several weeks that Paul Supporters want to bring home our troops from most of the places they serve right now. Those troops act as a bulwark against our enemies away from our shores. They also help to defend and protect our friends and allies who in turn provide us with information and support. Pulling out in a world with planes, missiles and weapons that almost reach "slaughter" potential (or not) is blatantly reckless.

[bcsco]

Pulling out in a world with planes, missiles and weapons that almost reach "slaughter" potential (or not) is blatantly reckless.

That depends on how you define "slaughter"; the rational view or the True Believers view? :)

[ejonesie22]

I’m thinking no less that 2 million myself. I can’t live up to Uncle Joe’s standards...

[bcsco]

I’m thinking no less that 2 million myself. I can’t live up to Uncle Joe’s standards...

I'm thinking 3. The term 'slaughter' seems to fit what those two out-on-bail convicts did to that poor family in Cheshire, CT. Works for me, anyway.

Going back to Dictionary.com's definitions, it's pretty much up to the user as far as numbers go. Though some True Believers would disagree :)

[ejonesie22]

I think we need a chart...

[bcsco]

I think we need a chart...

Here ya go...

Well, maybe not the one you were thinking of, but it's a slaughter chart. Hey, I'm quick if not accurate.

[ejonesie22]

Damn, can’t see it behind the firewall...

Self inflicted wounds are the worse...

[janetgreen]

Thank you for bringing Ron Paul's conservative views to this thread. I believe in principle over party, and IMO Ron Paul is one of only three real conservatives in the '08 race.

I will stay home before I vote for one of the Bush/Clinton RINO clones that the GOP is serving up.

[BlackElk]

ARE TOO!!!

I did not want McGovern or AlGore or John F'n Kerry to win either. They were also antiAmerican antiwar types who resembled the east end of a horse heading west just as much as Captain Queeg/Dr. Demento does. Such candidacies are a source of fun for those inclined to make fun of them. Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! AND proud of it.

[BlackElk]

PaleoPaulie’s heresy is his absolute desire to buttsmooch our Islamofascist enemies so we can TRADE!!!! with them so that the lions will lie down with the lambs or whatever.

[ejonesie22]

You left off neener, neener, neener...

[BlackElk]

Also, when paleoPaulie is one tenth as influential or as talented or as wise as Rush (with whom one may occasionally disagree) be sure to get back to us.

Hmmmm. We have Annie Coulter and Laura Ingraham and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Mark (The Great One) Levin and you guys are stuck with Alex Jones and Air America's antiAmerican antiwar moonbats of the airwaves wherever they can still afford to broadcast by defrauding Boys' Clubs and such tactics. That certainly helps explain the taste of ashes experienced by paleos everywhere.

I certainly am proud since I have been working at conservative (the actual kind) movement efforts for more than forty years now.

[Oberon]

Also, when paleoPaulie is one tenth as influential or as talented or as wise as Rush (with whom one may occasionally disagree) be sure to get back to us.

Being a political shock jock isn't the same thing as writing for the Cato Institute. I've heard more cogent arguments in defense of Republicans out of Gore Vidal (believe it or not) than I'll ever hear out of Limbaugh, because thinking and elucidating those thoughts isn't Limbaugh's schtick. He's an entertainer. A talented entertainer, but an entertainer nonetheless. What he does isn't analysis, it's cheerleading.

You want to do that, go right ahead. I can cancel you out by going "YAY RON PAUL! YAY RON PAUL!"

[BlackElk]

bcsco: Isn't it also fascinating to witness libertoonians placing their faith in men and governments???

Conservatives should shout at libertoonians as Ludwig von Mises shouted at Ayn Rand in 1961: "So, you're the silly woman who thinks you can have freedom without God!..." Fifteen uninterrupted minutes of von Mises's vocal derision of la Rand later, she fled the room (and the conservative movement permanently) in tears. One of the very best efforts of von Mises, one of our movement's greatest thinkers.