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To: lormand
"Let me make it simple for you. A neocon wants to pull out the values of liberty, freedom, capitalism, etc, and use government to do it." Sorry, but I didn't see a link, just some spew from a cut-run, useful idiot for the jihad. From Irving Kristol, who is without a doubt the modern day spokesman for neocons, found here http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=3000&R=785F27881

Neocons do not feel that kind of alarm or anxiety about the growth of the state in the past century, seeing it as natural, indeed inevitable... Neocons feel at home in today's America to a degree that more traditional conservatives do not. for a great power, the 'national interest' is not a geographical term, except for fairly prosaic matters like trade and environmental regulation. A smaller nation might appropriately feel that its national interest begins and ends at its borders, so that its foreign policy is almost always in a defensive mode. A larger nation has more extensive interests. And large nations, whose identity is ideological, like the Soviet Union of yesteryear and the United States of today, inevitably have ideological interests in addition to more material concerns.

Now that you have a link, you have a fit for the coat, don't ya think?

358 posted on 07/21/2007 12:18:25 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
"Now that you have a link, you have a fit for the coat, don't ya think?"

Nice try at diversion, but trying to define my beliefs and labeling them gives way too much attention to me personally. I'm flattered that you care, but lets try and maintain focus. Ron Paul's views are on trial here. If you believe like he does, that America is to blame for Islamic hate in the world, or that we are poised for a "Gulf of Tonkin" style raid, then we will be back on track.

I will gladly accept any name or title, as long as I'm no surrender monkey like Ron Paul and his minions of Paulistinians.

374 posted on 07/21/2007 12:37:38 PM PDT by lormand (...doing the research on Ron Paul that Paulistinians refuse to do.)
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