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NYT: Ron Paul for President... of the 'Wackos'? [Birchers, Israel-Haters, etc.]
Editor and Publisher.com ^ | 07/20/07 | E&P Staff

Posted on 07/20/2007 4:27:18 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

NEW YORK A feature piece in this coming Sunday's New York Times Magazine on Republican candidate for president, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, portrays his followers as including a wild mix of "wackos" on both ends of the political spectrum. Paul, a libertarian, has been gaining media and public attention of late.

The cover line reads: "A Genuine Radical for President." The headline inside: "The Antiwar, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Drug-Enforcement-Administration, Anti-medicare Candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul."

The article closes with the author, Christopher Caldwell, attending a Ron Paul Meetup in Pasadena. The co-host, Connie Ruffley of United Republicans of California, admits she once was a member of the radical right John Birch Society and when she asks for a show of hands "quite a few" attendees reveal that they were or are members, too. She refers to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as "Fine-Swine" and attacks Israel, pleasing some while others "walked out."

Caldwell notes that the head of the Pasadena Meetup Group, Bill Dumas, sent a desperate letter to Paul headquarters: "We're in a difficult position of working on a campaign that draws supporters from laterally opposing points of view, and we have the added bonus of attracting every wacko fringe group in the country....We absolutely must focus on Ron's message only and put aside all other agendas, which anyone can save for the next 'Star Trek' convention or whatever."

Asked about the John Birch Society Society by the author, Paul responds, "Is that BAD? I have a lot of friends in the John Birch Society. They're generally well-educated and they understand the Constitution. I don't know how many positions they would have that I don't agree with."

The writer concludes that the "antigovernment activists of the right and the antiwar activists of the left" may have "irreconciable" differences. But "their numbers -- and anger -- are of considerable magnitude. Ron Paul will not be the next president of the United States. But his candidacy gives us a good hint about the country the next president is going to have to knit back together."

Among many other things, we learn from the article that Paul had never heard of "The Daily Show" until he was a guest and referred to the magazine GQ as "GTU." It also notes that he was the only congress member to vote against the Financial Antiterrorism Act and a medal to honor Rosa Parks, among many others tallies, based on principle, not politics. He also is praised by liberal Rep. Barney Frank as "one of the easiest" members to work with because "he bases his positions on the merits of issues."


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To: Abcdefg
The Paul haters will turn on Reagan before this is over.

Some already have, blaming him for 9/11 because he pulled American soldiers out of the Middle East.

161 posted on 07/20/2007 8:03:32 PM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You must have a strong stomach to stick around your Stormfront web site long enough to analyze all that. I looked at the first few posts there and saw that a lot of skinheads don’t think Ron Paul is one of their own.
You are trying to use the old guilt by association smear, even though there IS no association, it seems.


162 posted on 07/20/2007 8:04:27 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
your Stormfront web site

Can't conceivably be "my" Stormfront site. I don't support their candidate for the presidency.

163 posted on 07/20/2007 8:07:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You spent a lot of time there and you’ve posted the link several times without warning people where you were sending them.


164 posted on 07/20/2007 8:10:18 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: SJackson
I take it you actually read the article:

NEW YORK A feature piece in this coming Sunday's New York Times Magazine on Republican candidate for president, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, portrays his followers as including a wild mix of "wackos" on both ends of the political spectrum. Paul, a libertarian, has been gaining media and public attention of late.

The cover line reads: "A Genuine Radical for President." The headline inside: "The Antiwar, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Drug-Enforcement-Administration, Anti-medicare Candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul."

Why would Salzberger and his henchmen and surrender monkeys at the New York Slimes go out of their way to devote a good portion of their Sunday magazine to a GOP candidate who A. Agrees with their Iraq War position and B. Has at the very least an uphill battle to get the GOP nomination?

165 posted on 07/20/2007 8:10:54 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

That is a very good question.


166 posted on 07/20/2007 8:25:18 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: George W. Bush
"So perhaps you should relax. Ron Paul isn't going to haul you to the camps and offer you a shower."

I'm sure those misunderstood Islamists would however. If only we would not have made them so mad.

167 posted on 07/20/2007 8:33:21 PM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: KDD

I wonder why it is, since Ron Paul has “no chance”, that so many on this forum feel the need to expend so much energy to see he doesn’t end up being the next president of the United States.


168 posted on 07/20/2007 8:35:04 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
The Paul haters will turn on Reagan before this is over.

Like they turned on William F. Buckley in this thread.

The Waning of the GOP

Our conservative icons are more likely to be demonized on this site these days then the most leftist democrat is. This is how neo-conservatism is reshaping the G.O.P.

169 posted on 07/20/2007 8:39:02 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: GlennD
"Can you please explain to me what it is that Paul said that is not true?"

How can any decent human being who also happens to be a member of Freerepublic NOT see the insanity of propagating kook conspiracies?

When I find that I must repeat myself to yet another Paulistinian who comes along, I can still never understand just how bizarre this world can be.

It is not exclusive to sane or a Freeper. One can be both.

170 posted on 07/20/2007 8:40:36 PM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: lormand
I'm sure those misunderstood Islamists would however. If only we would not have made them so mad.

But they are mad. As in mad dogs. And they miss no chance to kill Jews. Only fear holds them in check. Unfortunately, Israel currently seems to think they can appease them and they are currently lead by their own Neville Chamberlain, it seems.
171 posted on 07/20/2007 8:44:03 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Rodney King
"Perhaps the answer is in your own perception of Paul, not everyone else's."

I think that this is not only my perception, but the perception of the majority of this forum, and those behind it.

Ron Paul is for smaller government...blah blah. That sentiment is shared by all here. What seperates the men from the girls is when you blame America, surround yourself with kook conpiracists, and propagate "Gulf of Tonkin" tin-foiled hat crap.

Take this junk somewhere else.

172 posted on 07/20/2007 8:44:11 PM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: KDD

I have seen the phrase “paleo conservative” used as a form of derision in the forum lately.


173 posted on 07/20/2007 8:44:40 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
"They say it takes one to know one."

Maybe, but at least I'm not a surrender monkey.

174 posted on 07/20/2007 8:46:46 PM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: attiladhun2
Birchers are conspiracy theorists, but they do not believe in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
I used to be a member, until I became disgusted with the paranoia.
However actual anti-Semitism is not allowed. A whole group were expelled and later formed the Liberty Lobby.
However, since 9-11, many isolationists have become dhimmi anti-Zionists and then anti-Semites.
175 posted on 07/20/2007 8:50:39 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: lormand

Right

You're more a brain dead monkey.

176 posted on 07/20/2007 8:51:38 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: KDD
Like they turned on William F. Buckley in this thread.

It's like reading an exercise in free-association technique. I'm not sure if they don't understand him and garble what Buckley wrote or if they just hate the truth and shrink away from it, trying to convince themselves he can't be right.
177 posted on 07/20/2007 8:53:10 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: elkfersupper
"Now, what?"

He is saying that libertarianism is the canvas which Conservatism is made from.

I'll bet you were pissed when Reagan bombed Libya eh? The Islamist loved us until Reagan bombed Libya right?

< /thick sarcastic laughter >

178 posted on 07/20/2007 8:55:20 PM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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To: SJackson
The American Free Press is the latest incarnation of the new magazine of the anti-Semite conspiracy hounds expoeled from JBS.
A simply search of their site will show a number of references to Ron Paul including an article he has written.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/global_taxes.html
179 posted on 07/20/2007 8:59:06 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: KDD
"You're more a brain dead monkey."

Ah, the wonderful sophmore year in high school!

180 posted on 07/20/2007 9:06:51 PM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender Monkey for GOP nominee.)
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