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NYT: Ron Paul for President... of the 'Wackos'? [Birchers, Israel-Haters, etc.]
Editor and Publisher.com ^ | 07/20/07 | E&P Staff

Posted on 07/20/2007 4:27:18 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: SJackson; George W. Bush
as I've noted before the fixation by a few of the Paul supporters here on Jews, the Holocaust and Israel is a bit odd.

Every time I have seen this subject come up, it was because some anti-Paul FReeper was trying to accuse Paul of anti-semitism. When Paul supporters discuss it, its because they're defending him; not because of a "fixation".

121 posted on 07/20/2007 7:08:50 PM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If you guys are going to post a link to a site like that, I wish you’d label it as a warning. Those kind of sites are on FBI watchlists and I don’t like to click into such sites. Thanks.


122 posted on 07/20/2007 7:09:15 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush

What’s the “other agenda” to which you so coyly alluded, back in #108? Man up. Make with the specifics.


123 posted on 07/20/2007 7:09:34 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: jrooney
Long before this time next year Iraq will be stabilized

LOL, you think that do you? Whose word will you take for that? Oh of course Fox News and the administration. Who cares if it's true or not?

Hate to break it to you but Iraq and stability aren't in the cards without a secular strong man and no democracy. I could explain why that's the case but I've found true believers in the police action I've learned don't like history lessons.

You want to believe three separate sects (and two of Islam) are just going to get along in a nation created by Western powers after WWI be my guest. But it's not going to happen.

124 posted on 07/20/2007 7:09:54 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

John Birch was NOT 100% accurate, it was more like 90%..


125 posted on 07/20/2007 7:10:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: lormand
lormand:

“Let’s do the math.

Which one weighs more?

A) Ron Paul’s own words?

B) an article written by someone else?

I have a degree in Engineering, but I think this is 4th grade logic math.”

Seems like the math is OK, but the logic is lacking. I too have engineering degrees, but you lost me. What you posted and what was in the NR both included Paul’s own words. Can you please explain to me what it is that Paul said that is not true?

I keep seeing lots of references to Paul being nuts or stupid, or enemy of America, but I don’t see any quotes that seems to indicate lies or errors. I’m still trying to find out why any pol that wants to use the Constitution again is beyond the pale of Freeper thinking.

I notice, some of the “haters” are supporting him. They have to support some one. Maybe they wouldn’t be haters if the US Constitution was being used for governance. That they might post his (Paul’s) articles on their web site seems to bring hate from freepers. I’m not sure who those sites are, but I am very curious why an article by Paul, warning folks we’re about to be taxed by the UN is an object of scorn by anybody who claims to be a conservative. Can you please do that math for me?

The communists always support the democraps, but that doesn’t make them bad. (Well, maybe that’s a bad example). Point is, that some group you may dislike, hate, feel disdain for, are also voters. You may not like them, but I’d still rather have them vote for Paul than say, Hitlery Klinton, or for that matter, the other democrap, Rudy G.

What about Ron Paul scares freepers? -Glenn

126 posted on 07/20/2007 7:10:59 PM PDT by GlennD
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Okay, I see your link and I am not clicking a link to that site, thanks. Are there RP articles there? Same burden of proof I outlines before still applies.

I think we were in cross-post mode, and if I responded to the wrong post or poster, I apologize. I get to typing fast and do not do it that well.

127 posted on 07/20/2007 7:13:33 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: lormand
The attraction to Ron Paul by any Freeper knowing this information is bizarre to say it lightly.

You've been saying that on every Paul thread, and not getting an answer. Perhaps the answer is in your own perception of Paul, not everyone else's.

128 posted on 07/20/2007 7:13:41 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: billbears; jrooney
Long before this time next year Iraq will be stabilized

LOL, you think that do you?

I'm glad you put up the "LOL". I really wasn't sure whether or not it was in good taste to laugh at that.

129 posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:35 PM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: Puddleglum
I followed the initial link from the guy who posted the wikipedia excerpt. So I am not being willfully ignorant of your link.

Huh. Doesn't explain the "editorials" and whatnot you mentioned seeing there (Wiki articles don't have "editorials" and suchlike accompanying)... but: let it go, either way.

There is no longer any uncertainty on your part, I take it, as to which specific link is under discussion in this sub-thread. You will need to familiarize yourself with at least a statistically significant portion of same, in order to converse knowledgeably on said topic from this point forward.

The posters upon said thread (and they are numerous) are all extremely vocal and upfront as to what it is they happen to like and admire most about Ron Paul... and it is not, demonstrably, his position on fiat currency, say. What do you make of it all, then?

130 posted on 07/20/2007 7:18:08 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
What’s the “other agenda” to which you so coyly alluded, back in #108? Man up. Make with the specifics.

You know what I said. I'm not starting any flame war.
131 posted on 07/20/2007 7:21:32 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Puddleglum
“Well, I will admit that the company his columns keep in this magazine ranges from stock conservative issues to conspiracy fodder to a few other things, savory unsavory and indifferent, that I can’t categorize (mixed bag but based on government distrust). “

Sounds a whole lot like Ronald Reagan, to me. He used to say, “Remember, government isn’t always the solution, it’s the problem.”-Glenn

132 posted on 07/20/2007 7:22:00 PM PDT by GlennD
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To: Puddleglum
Okay, I see your link and I am not clicking a link to that site, thanks. Are there RP artciles there?

[::shrugs::] Suit yourself. As the original topic at hand was (and remains) Ron Paul's supporters -- as opposed to Ron Paul himself -- the presence of complete lack of "RP articles" is crashingly irrelevant, either way.

I think we were in cross-post mode

It happens.

133 posted on 07/20/2007 7:22:34 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: Puddleglum

Should read: “ [...] the presence OR complete lack...”


134 posted on 07/20/2007 7:23:28 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: rideharddiefast

Which of the collection of socialists, fascists and big-government candidates running on the Republican side would be your choice?


135 posted on 07/20/2007 7:23:44 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: billbears

“I wonder if I should ping the person who claimed all Paul supporters were such”

No need. And I thought I had revised and extended my remarks to say that of the Paul supports I HAD TALKED TO OR READ the MAJORITY (not all) were foul-mouthed jerks.

Not ALL.


136 posted on 07/20/2007 7:27:12 PM PDT by Grunthor (Wouldn’t it be music to our ears to hear the Iranian mullahs shouting “Incoming!”?)
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To: Grunthor

Understood.


137 posted on 07/20/2007 7:28:23 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: George W. Bush
What’s the “other agenda” to which you so coyly alluded, back in #108? Man up. Make with the specifics.

You know what I said.

We both know what you said. My only interest, at this point, is whether you genuinely have a pair adequate to the task of stating it plainly and forthrightly.

138 posted on 07/20/2007 7:29:00 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So now you Paul haters are getting relying on the politically leftest Wiki and NYT for you ammunition?


139 posted on 07/20/2007 7:29:25 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: billbears
Hate to break it to you but Iraq and stability aren't in the cards without a secular strong man and no democracy.

It didn't work 85 years ago either during the British invasion of Iraq in 1917, the first "liberation" of Iraq (then known as Mesopotamia). The British invaders came "not as conquerors but as liberators". They, too, held elections. When the internal troubles escalated, British intelligence warned of terrorists crossing the Syrian border. And finally, in the face of rising opposition to a failing occupation, Prime Minister Lloyd George rose in the House of Commons to declare: "if British troops leave Iraq there will be civil war".

Talk about history repeating itself. Even the slogans are recycled.
140 posted on 07/20/2007 7:29:34 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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