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The Ron Paul Movement
reason ^ | July 16, 2007 | Jesse Walker

Posted on 07/16/2007 8:31:51 PM PDT by JTN

Among the other firsts of his campaign, Ron Paul is probably the only presidential contender to be compared to a Samuel L. Jackson movie. The Texas congressman, a dark horse candidate for the Republican nomination, was being lightly grilled by Kevin Pereira, a host on the videogame-oriented cable channel G4. "Young people online, they were really psyched about Snakes on a Plane, but that didn't translate into big ticket sales for Sam Jackson," Pereira said. "Are you worried that page views on a MySpace page might not translate to primary votes?"

The reference was to the Internet sensation of 2006, an action movie whose cheesy title and premise had sparked a burst of online creativity: mash-ups, mock trailers, parody films, blogger in-jokes. Hollywood interpreted this activity as "buzz," and New Line Cinema inflated its hopes for the movie's box office take. When the film instead did about as well as you'd expect from a picture called Snakes on a Plane, the keepers of the conventional wisdom declared that this was proof of the great gulf between what's popular on the Internet and what sells in the material world.

Ron Paul is popular on the Internet, too, with more YouTube subscribers than any other candidate, the fastest-growing political presence in MySpace, a constant perch atop the Technorati rankings, and a near-Olympian record at winning unscientific Web polls. Like Snakes, he is the subject of scads of homemade videos and passionate blog posts. When Pereira mentioned the movie, he was making a clear comparison: Yes, your online fans are noisy, but will their enthusiasm actually translate into electoral success?

It's an interesting analogy, because the conventional wisdom about Snakes on a Plane is backwards. The reason the online anticipation for Snakes didn't translate into big ticket sales is because there actually wasn't much online anticipation for the movie. Yes, some of those parodists were interested in seeing the finished film, whose notoriety has given it minor cult status. But the others couldn't care less about the studio's product. Their online activity was an end in itself, a great big belly laugh at the expense of goofy high-concept movies. Their riffs and spoofs were far more entertaining than any actual feature about airborne reptiles was likely to be. Those fans weren't waiting for a show. They were the show.

That's one difference between Snakes and Paul: The congressman's fans really do want him to do as well as possible in the polls. But victory isn't the only thing on their minds. For many of them it isn't even the topmost thing on their minds. Like those Snakes on a Plane spoofs, the grassroots activity around Paul's campaign is interesting and valuable in itself. Here are three reasons why:

It's transpartisan. Paul's fan base stretches all the way from Howard Phillips to Alexander Cockburn. His libertarian message has resonance, as you'd expect, among free-marketeers dismayed by the GOP's love affair with federal spending. It is also attractive, as you'd expect, to lefties who like his opposition to the Iraq war and the post-9/11 incursions on our civil liberties. But the race has no shortage of anti-spending conservatives and antiwar liberals. Paul is especially appealing to people who don't fit the narrow stereotypes of Blue and Red: to decentralist Democrats, anti-imperialist Republicans, and a rainbow of independents.

The Internet makes it easier for such dispersed minorities to find each other, and the congressman's candidacy has given them a new reason to seek each other out. When Pittsburgh's Paul backers gathered via the MeetUp site, which arranges get-togethers for users who share a common interest, the blogger Mike Tennant attended. He found at least one Democrat, at least one anarchist, several disillusioned Bush supporters, a member of the Libertarian Party, a member of the right-wing Constitution Party, "and a whole roomful of folks disillusioned with the two-party duopoly... The one thing that unites us all is a desire to have a president who actually believes in liberty and has a record to match his rhetoric." Paul fans have been arguing forcefully for their candidate at both the conservative Web hub FreeRepublic and its liberal counterpart, Daily Kos—where, to be sure, they are met by angry opposition from more conventional Republicans and Democrats.

It's idea-driven. Were you wondering how Paul answered that question about Snakes on a Plane? He said, "I don't worry much about that at all. I worry about understanding the issues and presenting the case and seeing if I can get people to support these views." Some politicians are in this race because they really want to run the country. Some are in it because they want to be vice president, or be secretary of state, or extract some other prize from the eventual nominee. Paul is in it to inject ideas into the campaign. He wants to get votes, of course, but like Henry Clay he'd rather be right than be president. (Unlike Clay, he really is right most of the time.)

For Paul, it's a victory just to be on stage with Rudolph Giuliani arguing for a non-interventionist foreign policy, because it serves as a reminder that it's possible to be a fiscal conservative with bourgeois cultural instincts and yet oppose the occupation of Iraq and the effort to extend that war into Iran. That novelty, coupled with his fans' online activity, has earned Paul a rash of TV interviews: In the last two months, he has appeared on This Week, The Daily Show, Tucker, Lou Dobbs Tonight, and The Colbert Report, among other venues, raising his profile far above the other second-tier candidates. Each appearance is an opportunity not just to ask for votes but to express his anti-statist ideas, spreading a message rarely heard in the context of a presidential campaign.

It has a life of its own. After Jesse Jackson's populist campaign did unexpectedly well in 1988, many of his supporters hoped the Rainbow Coalition would become an independent grassroots force. But Jackson was more interested in his own political career, and he opted to make it a smaller group he could control. Similarly, Ross Perot resisted every effort to make the Reform Party something more than a vehicle for his presidential ambitions. When it slipped out of his control anyway, and in 2000 gave the world two competing presidential nominees, he stiffed both and endorsed George Bush instead.

A different fate befell the left-wing "netroots" that embraced Howard Dean in 2004 and Ned Lamont (among others) in 2006. They've maintained their decentralized character, and they're obviously larger than any particular pol. But unlike the Perot movement or even the Rainbow Coalition, which included left-wing independents as well as Democrats, the netroots aren't larger than one particular party. They may hate the Democratic establishment, but they're still devoted Democrats.

The Paul movement is different. Unlike the Jackson and Perot campaigns, it is open, decentralized, and largely driven by activists operating without any direction from the candidate or his staff. Unlike the netroots, it has no particular attachment to the party whose nomination its candidate is seeking. Paul himself left the Republican fold in the '80s to run for president as a Libertarian, and he still has friendly ties to that party. When he returned to the GOP and to Congress in the election of '96, the national party establishment threw its weight behind his opponent in the primaries, an incumbent who had originally been elected as a Democrat. Paul turned to independent sources to fill his campaign coffers, raising substantial sums from the libertarian, constitutionalist, and hard-money movements. Those have always been his chief base of support.

Barring a complete meltdown of the party gatekeeping apparatus, Ron Paul will not be the Republican nominee next year. And he says he has no plans to run as an independent. But you can't erase all the traces of a self-directed, transpartisan, idea-driven movement. Long after Snakes on a Plane was relegated to the cult-movie shelf, the people who spoofed it online are still writing blogs and editing mini-movies, applying the skills they honed mocking an action flick. Howard Dean is just a party functionary today, but the troops who assembled themselves behind him are still active in the trenches, their original leader nearly forgotten. I suspect that Paul will have a longer shelf life than Dean or Snakes. But whatever becomes of him after this election, his fans will still be there, organizing rallies, editing their YouTube videos, launching their own political campaigns, and spreading ideas.


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To: George W. Bush

Great article.


81 posted on 07/17/2007 8:05:46 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Rodney King

And the Islamonazis hate us because we are free, and therefore they support Ron Paul. Rudy Giuliani said so.


82 posted on 07/17/2007 8:09:37 AM PDT by M203M4 (Don't vote Ron Paul - the federal government has too much money to spend.)
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To: Puddleglum
...Rudy (of all people) huffed and puffed on stage one evening in mock offense. He could have counter-argued RP ...

actually he couldn't ... cause RP was speakeing the truth

83 posted on 07/17/2007 8:10:27 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: t_skoz

the cultists of the world thank you for your dedication...where are you in that video of ron paul supporters claiming 9-11 was an inside job???


84 posted on 07/17/2007 8:11:52 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: t_skoz; DesScorp
I personally know 350 + Ron Paul supporters. Of them, only 3 or 4 are “truthers”.

To my knowledge, of the large number of FReepers on our RP pinglist, only one has verged toward "truther" territory. He's now banned here at FR AFAIK and I haven't seen him lately. I saw him post a kind of "truther" thread at another of the FR-descended sites so I assumed that's why he got banned. He's still on our pinglist (and welcome to read our stuff) but JimRob isn't going to tolerate any "truther" discussions at FR. Nowhere in any FReepmails or on the forum itself have I read any "truther" statements from RP supporters. Management policy is plain on "truther" articles and seems fairly enforced.
85 posted on 07/17/2007 8:14:23 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: t_skoz

Wow...
If only the current administration had taken heed ...


86 posted on 07/17/2007 8:17:09 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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To: Austin Willard Wright; AmericanInTokyo
I thought their descriptions of RP's campaign as "transpartisan", "idea-driven", and "has a life of its own" really focused on the appeal of the RP's message and support. And it explains the viral internet phenomenon that RP's campaign has become.

It's not about Ron Paul personally as much as it is about the ideas and policy goals he's speaking to. But it is his longstanding voting record as Dr. No that gives the campaign its credibility. Any candidate can say these things (I wish they all would). But only Dr. No has voted and spoken for decades to these same issues.

Of course, these threads usually turn into trollbait since so few FReepers seem to read the articles any more. Some days, I think we should just post titles and no articles and let people hallucinate their favorite attacks on the target de jour. That's what seems to happen any more. I really miss the pre-Bush FreeRepublic. We had some very sharp posters here then, not a letter or word or bit of punctuation escaped their attention.
87 posted on 07/17/2007 8:22:45 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Puddleglum

If need be yes. Slither back into your spider hole where all you Paulettes belong amongst the DU crowd, Move on idioits, sorosites, Cindy Sheehans, Michael Moores, Al Frankens, et al. Yes, that is the crowd that supports Ron Paul and you all are amongst them. Enjoy.


88 posted on 07/17/2007 8:41:26 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: t_skoz
" another Constitutionally illegal, undeclared war we can not win"

Cindy Sheehan is that you? That is who you sound like and what does that say for you? Not much LOSER.
89 posted on 07/17/2007 8:44:45 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: George W. Bush
Latest Gallup Poll. Rep. Paul at 3%...so much for that 0% somebody has been touting.
90 posted on 07/17/2007 8:49:57 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: flintsilver7
Is it a burden to the American people to police the world? No doubt. Is it a crime to have the power to make the world better but instead choose the “not my job” approach?

We have no business polincing the world. As a matter of fact, there is no constitutional obligation for us to do so. In fact, the founders actually spoke very strongly against us acting in this manner. They also spoke against the US signing onto alliances.

Let’s face it. This isn’t 1776. Ron Paul would’ve made a wonderful President two hundred years ago.

Agreed.... And he would make a fine one today.

The problem is, oceans don’t protect us anymore.

Forget about oceans. We can't even control what comes across the Rio Grande river on our southern border.
91 posted on 07/17/2007 8:58:26 AM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: t_skoz
Whatever, Snookums.

Stop stalking me and bothering me. You're getting rather tiresome now. You really think you can manipulate people with your games. Remember, we're not all as gullible as the people you apparently interact with on a regular basis.

Get a life. And a personality.

I won't be corresponding with you anymore, so give it your best, twisted, little shot, Honeybunch. I'm awarding you the last word - don't waste it. Don't let me down! LOL

92 posted on 07/17/2007 9:04:27 AM PDT by Allegra (Carbon offsets for sale. Inquire within.)
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To: jrooney
If need be yes. Slither back into your spider hole where all you Paulettes belong amongst the DU crowd, Move on idioits, sorosites, Cindy Sheehans, Michael Moores, Al Frankens, et al. Yes, that is the crowd that supports Ron Paul and you all are amongst them. Enjoy.

Gosh, that response was so vile I forgot the question I asked. Must have had something to do with promoting decency in the world. Oh yes, I asked if it was America's duty to rid the world of all thugs and tyrants (people who oppress other people). You said yes. Please name the next targets we should declare war on and when you plan to enlist.

93 posted on 07/17/2007 9:20:59 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: George W. Bush
It's about control of the oil patch. It always was. So was Gulf War I under Spook Daddy.

How many times do they have to come right out and state it baldly before you pull your head out and believe what they themselves have told you?

Oh, dear. You aren't one of those WMD-in-Iraq weirdos we still have here, are you? It was about a lot more than oil.

It's about the long running dream of the West of building a just world where states don't invade other states and nutjob leaders don't have a free hand to torture, rape and kill their subjects.

The lesson of WW2 was "don't let an obviously mad man with an Army run wild". Which leader do we denigrate in WW2? Chamberlain, who tried to ignore, then compromise with Hitler. Bush (I and II) both read the same history books as everyone else here on FR and in the USA and England.

Bush (I and II) were acting on the collective wisdom of the West, in pursuit of the Western organized dream of a powerful United Nations that could act to create and sustain Order in the world. As opposed to international relations based solely on power. (IE: The New World Order.)

With the fall of the Soviets the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was the first test of an unconstrained (by the USSSR) UN, backed up by US muscle. It seemed to work.

It's only on the rocks of Iraqi Freedom that the problems inherent in this world view are showing.

95 posted on 07/17/2007 9:26:53 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Bush (I and II) were acting on the collective wisdom of the West, in pursuit of the Western organized dream of a powerful United Nations that could act to create and sustain Order in the world. As opposed to international relations based solely on power. (IE: The New World Order.)

Bush I and all the GOP secretaries of state and national security advisers have opposed Bush II's policies. They have throughout this misbegotten adventure. None of them has supported it, publicly or in their writings. That is why they expelled Saddam during GW I but studiously avoided toppling him. They wisely avoided that which Bush II has led us into.

Since your premise is utterly flawed, there is no point in discussing your conclusions.
96 posted on 07/17/2007 9:31:54 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: DesScorp

See post #55


97 posted on 07/17/2007 9:34:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: BigTom85
Forget about oceans. We can't even control what comes across the Rio Grande river on our southern border.

Oh, yeah? But Iraq is going to have secure borders! We're sending over our BP to do the job. Isn't that good enough for all you whiners?

</sarcasm>

[That was a good retort you had...]
98 posted on 07/17/2007 9:36:16 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: t_skoz; Petronski; God luvs America; byteback; jrooney; Allegra; roses of sharon; RavenATB
My question would be, of the 19 hijackers on September 11th 2001, all were Saudis except for an Egyptian, one from the UAE, and a Lebanese national. Why did we not attack Saudi Arabia?

Let's see. Could it be that the 19 hijackers were Al Qaeda terrorists who, along with Bin Laden, were expatriated from Saudi Arabia? Could it be that they were all selected for the mission while training at terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and not Saudi Arabia? Hmmm. And in 18 months, we’ll be neck deep in the middle of another Constitutionally illegal, undeclared war we can not win and should not be fighting in Iran.

So, the fact that the U.S. Congress voted to give President Bush the power to engage in military operations in order to remove Saddam from power makes Iraq an Illegal war? Hmmmmm! These issues don't require a degree in Rocket Science to figure out. Just a little common sense. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot.

100 posted on 07/17/2007 9:40:28 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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