[Robert_Paulson2]

In Oregon, it's both.
the environmentals FIRST use their "green" issues to get the state to pay for and continually do the studies, and then ransack the county zoning meetings to demand highdensity housing for ANY permit to even repair your own house, and therefore restrict what you do with YOUR property... voila! now your property is effectively theirs, fait accompli, without even spending a dime of their own money.

we can't meet our state budget necessities, but we can afford the studies to perform the illegal takings.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

ping

[jackbob]

...ransack the county zoning meetings...

But why were there "county zoning meetings" to start with? This is the cause of the problem. This is the "fait accompli."

Environmentalists using pre existing tools should not be blamed. But rather the users and promoters of such tools to start with, are the culprits.