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Libertarian Party: Campaign Finance Reform Ruling is Assault on Free Speech
Libertarian Party press release ^
| December 11, 2003
| George Getz
Posted on 12/11/2003 6:38:18 PM PST by Commie Basher
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As I recall, when
Bush signed this bill, all the Bushbots were
marveling over his genius, saying that Bush opposed the bill, but by signing it Bush was cleverly "diffusing" the issue, since he knew that the courts would overturn it.
Yeah, brilliant plan.
Now, of course, the Bushbots are blaming it all on McCain and the court.
To: Commie Basher
The established parties do not want competition from alternatives. It could rip apart their pork barreling ways and actually serve the American people.
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posted on
12/11/2003 6:52:52 PM PST
by
Faramir
To: Commie Basher
During the height of the cold war, a Soviet general remarked to his American counterpart during one of the arms reduction negotiations that it is almost impossible to devise a defense against the American military. He remarked that Americans write a rule book, but then completely disregard it and do the most unexpected of things; a concept totally unknown in the ridgid staff system that was Soviet military doctrine.
I suspect that the same fate will befall Campaign Finance Reform. I figure it'll take about 8 to 10 months, max, to figure out a way around, over or through it.
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posted on
12/11/2003 6:58:51 PM PST
by
seadevil
(after a 2 year hiatus from FR, I have returned)
To: Commie Basher
All the Bushbots? I doubt it. Some did. This bill was a bad idea from the beginning. Disappointed in the SCOTUS, of course, but, hey. Maybe it'll help to wake up some people to the obstructionism going on right now by the Democrats. They are so frightened that some of GWB's circuit court picks will eventually be appointed to the Supreme Court, thereby diluting its current liberal bias, that they are using unprecedented extreme obstructionist methods to block their confirmations.
Want to make the Supreme Court and all of the federal courts more conservative? Vote out the commie-loving rat bastards! Want to leave the godless America hating Democrats on the bench, vote Rat or third party.
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:04:21 PM PST
by
Jim Robinson
(All your ZOT are belong to us.)
To: All
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:04:38 PM PST
by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: PhiKapMom; My2Cents; nopardons; Howlin; Miss Marple; woodyinscc; Wolfstar; arasina
It is "here-we-go-again" time.
Let's hear it for the Losertarian Party --- always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
Bitching from the sideline with the Greens. Oh, if our vote wasn't so precious as to waste it.
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:11:31 PM PST
by
onyx
To: Jim Robinson
Maybe it'll help to wake up some people to the obstructionism going on right now by the Democrats. It should also wake up politicians to do the right thing, rather than do wrong and hope the courts will fix your mess.
To: onyx
I can understand people not liking this bill because frankly it is not a good bill but then I am not a big proponent of CFR to begin with. That said, I am having a hard time figuring out how this is infringing on my own personal free speech.
I can understand how it is affecting the speech of organizations but my own personal free speech -- no way!
Personally if I never saw another campaign ad on TV, it would suit me just fine.
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:26:43 PM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1in the BCS)
To: Jim Robinson
I remember the political climate at the time. President Bush was under constant attack. I admit that I breathed a collective sigh of relief when he signed the damn thing. One thing I do know is that President Bush is fired up about his Judges, and would have compromised by now if he was going too. Another thing I know, he is a man of priorities, and his Judges are in the first three. The first two being God and family. The Judges are all the dems have left, and President Bush will put the coup d' grace to that soon.!
To: Commie Basher
Now, of course, the Bushbots are blaming it all on McCain and the court. Some of them are praising the CFR law, because they think it will benefit the Republicans.
To: onyx
Let's hear it for the Losertarian Party --- always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Bitching from the sideline with the Greens. Oh, if our vote wasn't so precious as to waste it.
Something more "precious" than that is, I don't know, maybe the spectacle of how some "conservatives," once they get power, eagerly join hands with the socialists to tear down what is left of the Constitution. This is not some minor matter -- leftist social engineers are finding ways to regulate away the First Amendment and too many "conservatives" are eager to help them.
I don't expect ideological purity from politicians, but this latest "reform" is a dagger in the heart of the Republic. If the "conservatives" do 80% of the things the socialists do, should I be grateful for the 20%? I'm tired of some radical socialist proposal being accepted as a sacred "conservative" dogma 10 years down the line. It is time to demand something better than the clueless, feckless "leaders" we now have.
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posted on
12/11/2003 7:44:54 PM PST
by
Wilhelm Tell
(Lurking since 1997!)
To: aristeides
Some of them are praising the CFR law, because they think it will benefit the Republicans.I hope you are not including me, because of what I brought up on another thread. I will be able to quash that real fast.!
To: onyx
Thank you for the ping.
To: woodyinscc
Thank YOU for the succinctly stated eloquence of the unvarnished truth in your post #9.
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posted on
12/11/2003 8:03:37 PM PST
by
onyx
To: Wilhelm Tell
Please see woodyinscc's #9.
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posted on
12/11/2003 8:05:44 PM PST
by
onyx
To: PhiKapMom
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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posted on
12/11/2003 8:19:05 PM PST
by
bc2
(http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
To: onyx
They'll complain at the drop of a pin.
Is it a good Bill/ decision ? No, but hardly as horrific as is oft said it is on FR. Do the fringers have a point? At the top of their tiny heads.
To: Jim Robinson
What you said!
To: PhiKapMom
If the Congress can getr away with infringing the Freedom of Speech of organizations, what's to stop them from trying to do the same to you and me? It's a slippery slope.
Actually this bill is more an infringement on Freedom of Assembly, as it limits the right of people to freely assemble together in a group to voice their collective displeasure with a politician. Individually we can all still object, but as a group, our rights are limited by this law.
It's a sad day in Amewrica. I am one of the lucky few who can actually do something about it, as Feingold is one of my Senators. And he's up for re-election in '04. I don't think he'll get my vote. He!! is still too warm for me to do that.
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posted on
12/11/2003 9:13:47 PM PST
by
mukraker
To: nopardons
Oh, yes, it is shaping-up for a replay here of election 2000. Oh the horrors. I am already tired.
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posted on
12/11/2003 9:35:50 PM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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