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Fr. Andrew Greeley's Dirty Secret?
The Illinois Leader ^ | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 08/30/2003 7:46:36 PM PDT by mattcabbott

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1 posted on 08/30/2003 7:46:36 PM PDT by mattcabbott
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Aloysius; AniGrrl; Antoninus; As you well know...; BBarcaro; ...
PING.

Does Greeley really have the goods on the top brass, or is he just blowing smoke?
2 posted on 08/30/2003 7:53:09 PM PDT by Loyalist (Who gazed upon the world with lidless eyes....)
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To: Loyalist
my bet - and remember my view is from outside Roman Catholicism is that Greeley has long liked to play games to yank the chains of conservative theologians - remember his bit where he did a novel asserting that the archangel Gabriel was female? That being the case, I'd bet that he had heard rumors of the murder described in your article, and being a lefty had undoubtedly run into homosexual clergy who had self-identified as such to him...thus giving him sufficient imaginary material to write what he did...I seriously doubt he ever really considered himself threatened, since none of the homosexuals would have believed for an instant that he would turn them in; and of course he wouldn't.

just my 2 cents worth on that one,
3 posted on 08/30/2003 7:59:10 PM PDT by ahadams2 (Anglican lay minister who works with Pentecostals)
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To: Loyalist
"Does Greeley really have the goods on the top brass, or is he just blowing smoke?"

If you believe, as I do, that liberalism if of and from Satan, then the words "blowing smoke" are particularly apropos.

My experience is that it is impossible to sort the truth from the lies when a liberal speaks without independent corroboration from other sources.
4 posted on 08/30/2003 8:22:02 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Loyalist
Didn't Malachi Martin's "Windswept House" have essentially the samething set in Chicago - a brutal murder with excruciating details known by Martin that clearly pointed to a real case?
5 posted on 08/30/2003 8:22:25 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Indeed. Pellegrini's murder was "fictionalized" by Martin in that novel.
6 posted on 08/30/2003 8:31:36 PM PDT by mattcabbott
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To: mattcabbott
The Beginning of The End of The Bernardin Legacy
7 posted on 08/30/2003 8:35:22 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
See also...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28294

And the silence from the "powers that be" is STILL deafening!
8 posted on 08/30/2003 8:45:39 PM PDT by mattcabbott
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To: dsc
You wrote "If you believe, as I do, that liberalism if of and from Satan, then the words "blowing smoke" are particularly apropos."

that would be sulfur smoke with a trace of brimstone then?...as far as Greeley goes, I most certainly agree...we've seen too many of his lot over on our side of the aisle!
9 posted on 08/30/2003 9:10:02 PM PDT by ahadams2 (Anglican lay minister who works with Pentecostals)
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To: mattcabbott
I try to do my best to ignore Greeley for if I don't I will stay aggrivated. However, I at the same time I try to see what he is up to for there may be mischief on the horizon.
10 posted on 08/30/2003 9:26:35 PM PDT by RaginCajunTrad (ask not what your government can do for you; ask your government not to do anything to you)
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To: mattcabbott
I hadn't realized you were part of this forum, so I take this opportunity, as a 4 year Wanderer subscriber, to publicly applaud you on your outstanding work for the Church, Mr. Abbott.
11 posted on 08/30/2003 11:10:50 PM PDT by jobim
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I had the extreme displeasure to attend one of his mAsSes. A certain wacked-out liberal Monsignor here in Tuscodom and Arizomorrah just loves him and brings him in all the time to delight the Druids at OMOS. The idiot, Greeley, had to continually ask the little druid girls around the altar what to do next in the mass. he couldn't even figure out the NO mass! But his sermon was every bit as smooth and professional as it was pornographic, un-Catholic and disgusting. We got about an hour of him regailing us with tales of his lust for Audrey Hepburn. That was it.

I felt unclean in every way by the time I left. God help us!
12 posted on 08/30/2003 11:24:40 PM PDT by Thorondir (The Catholic heart breaks in these vile times, and Satan rejoices.)
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To: Thorondir
Does he still teach at the U of A?
13 posted on 08/30/2003 11:30:18 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: TotusTuus
I don't know, but I would not trust that stinking devil pervert to teach ANYTHING.
14 posted on 08/30/2003 11:32:31 PM PDT by Thorondir (The Catholic heart breaks in these vile times, and Satan rejoices.)
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To: Thorondir
From his webpage:

..A native of Chicago, Reverend Andrew M. Greeley, is a priest, distinguished sociologist and best-selling author. He is professor of social sciences at the University of Chicago and the University of Arizona, as well as Research Associate at the national Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago. His current sociological research focuses on current issues facing the Catholic Church - including celibacy of priests, ordination of women, religious imagination and sexual behavior of Catholics.

As a Tempean, I'm jealous of you Tucsonians who got him for the UA, rather than us for ASU. Oh darn, I guess them are the breaks... ;-)

15 posted on 08/30/2003 11:59:11 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: jobim
Thank you!!
16 posted on 08/31/2003 7:47:04 AM PDT by mattcabbott
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To: ahadams2
>that would be sulfur smoke with a trace of brimstone then?

Oh, if only it were true, if only it were true...

Sulfur is from God, not Satan. It was known to the ancient Greeks that Sulfur cleansed disease. They called in "Theion." "-on" is a prefix used to denote something which bears something (proton, electron, photon, graviton, automaton, etc.), and "The-" is a prefix meaning "god," so the word may actually be meant to say something bears God.

Thus, the threat of Theon was that exposure to the righteousness of God, which obliterates all evil... The sinner exposed to Theon would experience the horror of his guilt, and thus would either be cleansed of sin, or be destroyed along with it.
17 posted on 08/31/2003 9:40:45 AM PDT by dangus
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"But should they slip, should they get caught, the previous scandals will seem trivial...."

I'm not a lawyer, but correct me if I'm wrong. If you have evidence related to a felony murder or criminal sexual abuse, and you know that the criminals have not been brought to justice, and, like Greeley, you decide to withhold that evidence, doesn't that make you an accomplice?

18 posted on 08/31/2003 11:20:25 AM PDT by boromeo
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Hi Matt,

Great article! Is this a secular paper? If so, are you a regular contributer?

I too want to thank you for your work in the Wanderer, and welcome to the Free Republic Catholic Caucus.

God Bless,

Dr. Brian Kopp

19 posted on 08/31/2003 11:40:05 AM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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Bump! I just came across this thread and was going to use my ping list - see you have done it before me! Thanks.

I read, "Confessions of a Parish Priest" last year and found it very egotistic. Sad, that because Fr. Greeley came from a very devout Irish Catholic family. < it just came to me that most of the liberal priests are Irish and had the same background... >

20 posted on 08/31/2003 11:46:13 AM PDT by american colleen
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