Review of Liturgical Reform Proposed by Cardinal Sodano

Actually, there are canon lawyers who dispute the legitimacy of Fr. Feeney's "excommunication". In fact, he never arrived in Rome for his 'hearing' because the Vatican did not allow him his canonical right to be represented by a Canon Lawyer, nor did they ever notify him of the nature of the original charges they were bringing against him. And it is very strange that it was the Church itself, (through Cardinal Medeiros), that requested the Vatican lift the censure against Fr. Feeney, which they did without asking him to recant anything, but merely asked him to make a profession of faith.

Fr. Feeney was excommunicated for disobedience, not heresy. So to be reconciled, he would not be required to make a "recantation" of his "heresy", since he was not censured for such an act to begin with. How stupid do you take the rest of us for?

Oh, and who are these "some canon lawyers" who dispute the excommunication? Is the Acta Apostolicae Sedis not the official publication of such decrees? Is the decree of excommunication not contained within it?

None of your aruments are convincing, and that nonsensical cunard that I am excommunicated

No, an interdict. You are forbidden from the Sacraments until you confess, because the dissemination is a mortal sin. Read the decree. Its quite clear.

And I'm sorry that Decrees of the Holy Office are not "convincing" to you. Perhaps damnation will be, when you discover that the Holy Office really does have authority to forbid the dissemination of this work.

He got shafted by the modernists who seek to change the Catholic Church just as surely as Melanie Calvet did.

Sorry, he disobeyed the command to come to Rome for a Canonical trial. He was not "shafted". He refused legitimate authority, just like you.

And since the La Sallette apparition is fully approved, and Melanie Calvet's 1879 brochure has the Imprimatur of the Bishop of Lecce, we have the assurance there is nothing doctrinally unsound contained in the prophesies.

An Imprimatur is an approval to publish, not a statement that there is nothing doctrinally wrong with a work (that is a nihil obstat). Given the numerous condemnations of this so-called secret, the Imprimatur here is not worth the paper it is written on.

I have this brochure. There are a number of false statements within it. A few of them:

9. Because in less than seven years after the introduction of the New Mass, priests in the world decreased from 413,438 to 243,307 -- almost 50%! (Holy See Statistics)

This is an apples and oranges comparison. The first number is the total number of Priests - Diocesean and Religious. The second number is the total number of Diocesean Priests ONLY. You can verify this by looking at the referenced work in a good Library. Presently, the total numebr of Catholic Priests in the world is about 465,000, IIRC.

21. Because the narrative manner of the Consecration in the New Mass infers that it is only a memorial and not a true sacrifice (Protestant Thesis)

The GIRM is perfectly clear in referring to the "Institution Narrative" and the "Consecration". There is no "narrative manner of the Consecration".

GIRM 55 d. Institution narrative and consecration: in the words and actions of Christ, that sacrifice is celebrated which he himself instituted at the Last Supper, when, under the appearances of bread and wine, he offered his body and blood, gave them to his apostles to eat and drink, then commanded that they carry on this mystery.

26. Because the New Mass was made in accordance with the Protestant definition of the Mass: "The Lord's Supper or Mass is a sacred synaxis or assembly of the people of God which gathers together under the presidence of the priest to celebrate the memorial of the Lord." (Par. 7 Intro. to the New Missal, defining the New Mass, 4/6/69)

The editio typica of the GIRM reads:

7. At Mass or the Lord's Supper, the people of God are called together, with a priest presiding and acting in the person of Christ, to celebrate the memorial of the Lord or eucharistic sacrifice.[13] For this reason Christ's promise applies supremely to such a local gathering together of the Church: "Where two or three come together in my name, there am I in their midst" (Mt. 18:20). For at the celebration of Mass, which perpetuates the sacrifice of the cross,[14] Christ is really present to the assembly gathered in his name; he is present in the person of the minister, in his own word, and indeed substantially and permanently under the eucharistic elements.[15]

34. Because statistics show a great decrease in conversions to Catholicism following the use of the New Mass. Conversions, which were up to 100,000 a year in the U.S., have decreased to less than 10,000! And the number of people leaving the Church far exceeds those coming in.

These statistics are confusing, because seperate statistics on the number of adults received into the Church without Baptism were not fully kept. However, the number of adult Baptisms into the Church in the US never dropped below 75,000. It certainly was not 10,000. Today, there are between 160,000 and 180,000 converts per year in the US, about 1/2 adult Baptisms.

I very much doubt that there has been any real drop at all.

Solange Hertz is a cuckoo clock. Period. Any credibility you may have had has been destroyed with this citation.

Malachi Martin was also "brilliant."

And I'm sorry that Decrees of the Holy Office are not "convincing" to you

It is weird to read in these threads certain Catholics citing their favorite layman in opposition to the Magisterium.

I was learnt that was the approach/position/attitude of a protestant.

I have yet to see any of these individuals explain how their approach is not protestant.

I understand.

I don't suppose we have an original publication date foer this document of "62 Reasons, etc." since the priests of Campos, Brazil's SSPX group (descended from former Bishop Castro de Mayer) has returned to the Roman Catholic Church in the last year or two. Their return to Rome does not suggest continued adherence to the document in question. Maybe, someday, SSPX will find a way to lay aside unwarranted pride, save face and return to communion with the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church as well. We should all pray vigorously for that happy day.

"Solange Hertz is a cuckoo clock. Period. Any credibility you may have had has been destroyed with this citation. Malachi Martin was also "brilliant."

I love how you neo-Catholics try to slander good people by spitting onto their faces the dastardly labels of "insane", or other catchy little stereotypes that calumniate their character. It's your cowardly little way of trying to destroy their integrity and moral authority...just as Melanie Calvet, who was selected by Heaven to meet face to face with the Mother of God, was deemed a "cuckoo clock" by your ilk. Your whole argument is premised on throwing dung at people until something sticks. But when you scratch the surface of your shallow faith and transparent hatred, it's plain to see that you're scared to death of the revelations of Father Malachi Martin, the laicized priest who was granted a dispensation by Pope Paul VI to leave the Jesuits for a private life, and who maintained his priestly faculties, and who lived out his vows of celibacy inspite of being released from them -- something so many of the weak spirited, neo-Catholic priests can no longer do.

They always murdered the prophets and shot the messengers, I guess it's just human nature.