August 3 - The Second Message of Our Lady of Akita (A Warning)

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[Pyro7480]

The point isn't to "terrorize" people. The point is to be the loving Christian and help them to repent. The other positive part of it is to pray the Rosary DAILY. These are acts of love, not terror. For our God IS a loving God, but He is also a God of justice.

[sinkspur]

The point is to be the loving Christian and help them to repent.

Threats of hell are not the acts of loving Christians.

Mother Teresa is my model, and she never threatened anybody. "Love your family" was her advisement, and I take it to heart.

[Pyro7480]

Sorry to do this again, but a second ping for those who didn't see it the first time...

[Pyro7480]

Ping!

[Pyro7480]

I think the message is one of hope, not one of hell. We can make a difference through prayer and repentence.

[CARepubGal]

Akita? Why do I picture a large Japanese Dog with a black tongue? :-)

[Thorondir]

The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

And she did not give me credit for saying this. Man! (/sarcasm)

The Church is full of those who accept the demon and do his work, as at least one demonstrates so consistently here on this forum.

[Thorondir]

Threats of hell are not the acts of loving Christians.

Ha ha haaaaaaa! What church do you belong to, man? Threats of hell ARE the acts of Jesus Christ in the Gospels. He was NOT inclusive of those who did not repent and turn away from the path to hell, which He mentioned scores of times. Do you even READ the Bible, ever, EVER?

[sinkspur]

Threats of hell ARE the acts of Jesus Christ in the Gospels.

One specific reference in which Jesus threatened a specific person with hell.

Just one will do.

[sinkspur]

Still digging. Remember, I want a specific reference in which Jesus condemns a specific person to hell.

[ET(end tyranny)]

Mother Teresa is my model, and she never threatened anybody. "Love your family" was her advisement, and I take it to heart.

I would only add that we shouldn't have to be TOLD to pray for people of ALL nations, we should be doing that anyway.

[Thorondir]

a specific person

This is a substantial change from your first wacked-out unchristian statement. Can't you be honest about ANYTHING? If you cannot stick to any subject or line of thinking without constantly mutating it to make yourself look good or clever, then you are not capable of adult argumentation.

Just what is WRONG with you?

[BlackVeil]

Fatima, and LaSalette, and apparitions to Simon Stock have stood the test of time.

Who is Simon Stock? I would have said that the message of Lourdes has stood the test of time. It is very questionable to make that claim about La Salette.

[dsc]

"I think there is a misunderstanding over who the "them" is here."

Very possibly. One would need to see the original Japanese. Pronouns in Japanese are scarce as hen's teeth.

[dsc]

"Just what is WRONG with you?"

Satan is wrong with him.

Someone posts an article on an approved apparition that undermines his every heresy, and he's right there to poop all over it, swinging a ten-pound sack stuffed with twenty pounds of irrelevancies, red herrings, and sophistry.

What else would you expect from him?

[Thorondir]

Nothing more than that. He once told me he is only here to be an irritant. He told me that explicitly, and I take it to mean more than just an irritant to those who love the Church, but to the Church and Jesus also. I think he's doing a good job.

[Ippolita]

Only I can prevent the disaster. Whoever entrusts themselves to me will be saved." Is Mary the one that is supposed to be saying this?

Even the Catholic's are out of luck. I focused on this sentence immediately. I find it out of context with marian thought. It seems Mary is substituting herself to GOD: I doubt the Virgin would do this. Ecce ancilla domini; behold I am the handmaid of the Lord, is Mary's call to mankind.

[TotusTuus]

Who is Simon Stock?

Carmelite in England circa 12th, 13th Century. Visionary of 'Brown Scapular of Mt. Carmel' fame.

[TotusTuus]

"The Congregation of the Doctrine for the Faith has given me directives in this sense," the Bishop said, "that only the bishop of the diocese in question has the power to recognize an event of this kind."

IOW, Ratzinger doesn't want to touch this with a ten-foot pole.

What gives? The Bishop, or rather Cardinal Ratzinger, summarized the Church's standard investigative protocol for events such as this. The local ordinary always has complete jurisdiction for investigating these type of events. The CDF gets involved at the request of the local ordinary. Only in extraordinary circumstances would the Holy See step in to take a second look at decisions made by the local ordinary.

Medjugorje and Garabandal? Negative decisions by the local Bishops.

Lourdes? Positive affirmation by the local Bishop.

[Pyro7480]

See post #13.