Posted on 07/01/2003 10:22:12 AM PDT by ksen
For this instance, yes.
You do realize of course there was no RCC when Jesus established His "church"?
(REG) Where do you find a promise that this "Church" is protected from error?
Scripture.
Citation?
(REG) Has this "Church" you speak of ever committed an error?
No.
So say you. My favorite quote concerning the "slippery" wording of the apologists was lost when the lightning hit my computer. Tch tch. 1,780 posted on 07/11/2003 3:00 PM EDT by SoothingDave
Sounds Hellenistic to me. :-)
I guess Mom has the mods in her hip pocket. LOL
SD
How's the weather up there? Is the sweet corn in yet? How about that sausage beating?
SD
What if I said it is 100 percent blue and 100 percent Japanese?
SD
God did not call for a human sacrifice. You are reading that into it as did Abraham.Genesis 22:1 And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.Wow!
2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
Sure looks like God is calling for a human sacrifice. That's probably what tripped up Abraham and me.
Now, if I could do that ... see the end from the beginning thing ... like God can, I would probably agree with you.
SD
Yeshua and the apostles were to teach them to repent of their idolatrous ways and how to properly follow the commandments.
Strange ...
I don't recall Yeshua teaching on the subject of idols. And his first hearers were Jewish. The first christians were Jewish.
Did the Jews worship idols in Yeshua's day ?
Sorry, Quester, you're all wet on this one. At the end of the story, do you think the lesson is that God wants human sacrifice or He does not?
Obviously, He didn't in that situation (the one situation where He appears to call for it ... from us).
But, there's no way Abraham, going in, could have seen this.
I really was using this passage to refute the notion, posted by others, that Jesus was not a proper sacrifice, due to the various regulations on animal sacrifice.
Actually you make a very good point.
Or ever from us. The unwritten subtext is that Abraham's people may have indeed engaged in this type of thing, as neighboring peoples did. This "incident" is meant to teach us that God forbade human sacrifice.
But, there's no way Abraham, going in, could have seen this.
Exactly. That's why it was a test of faith.
I really was using this passage to refute the notion, posted by others, that Jesus was not a proper sacrifice, due to the various regulations on animal sacrifice.
You were better of with the argument that humans are not animals period, and if they were meant to be considered under dietary and sacrificial laws, that humans would be permanently "unclean."
To even hint that God wanted us to sacrifice humans is counterproductive.
SD
From us.
Go and learn what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.' (Matthew 9:13)
You were better of with the argument that humans are not animals period, and if they were meant to be considered under dietary and sacrificial laws, that humans would be permanently "unclean."
To even hint that God wanted us to sacrifice humans is counterproductive.
I agree that my other argument was better. ;o)
What? Just when I said you made an excellent point? :-)
Don't you ?
No, I have not literally become one flesh with my wife. Unlike the angler fish, we do not physically become one organism.
Happy to oblige. 
There, now we've got it all sorted out.
Sorry, not done yet. ;o)
There was just one, the one Adam damaged. Jesus took this nature on and united it to the divine.
So the divine nature was joined to a damaged human nature? This would imply that Jesus was born with original sin.
Go and learn what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.' (Matthew 9:13)
The notion of sacrifice being rote is repugnant to God. I think we all agree. However, after Hosea delivered this message God did not cease activity in the Temple, did he?
God ceased the sacrifices after He made the ultimate gesture to demonstrate that it is internal rather than external conversion he wants.
SD
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.