Posted on 06/23/2003 11:31:49 AM PDT by yonif
maybe no one does know what the matter came from, or where the energy came from, but what some people say is, how does that lack of knowledge demand that a creator created the universe?
Actually, we do know where all the matter came from. All the light gases of the universe were made by the Big Bang. At the time of Big Bang the Universe was situated in a very infinite small space and was so hot as if millions of suns were burning together. As the Universe was one thousandth of a second old, its temperature had fallen 10 billion degrees. Initially Quark was created, it is known as the creator of todays protons and neutrons. By the time the Universe had reached the age of one hundredth of a second it was failed up with protons, electrons, positrons and neutrinos. These three quarks combined together to form neutrons and protons, but these particles are found in very less quantity. By the time the Universe was a second old, the temperature had further fallen by 10 million degrees and protons did not have so much energy left with them that they could collect their own particles.
The most historic event took place after the Universe was 100 seconds old. Its temperature had further fallen by some lakh degrees. The protons and neutrons were moving very slowly, at that time the force was created that is responsible for holding the protons and neutrons to the nucleus. From here on the era of Nuclear Synthesis started when light Nuclear were created, they contained Helium and Lithium gases, but for creation of heavy elements like oxygen higher temperature was required. But as the Universe was expanding at the same rate it was cooling down. The heavy basic elements later were to become atomic furnaces in the stars.
Nuclear fusion in stars converts hydrogen into helium in all stars. In stars less massive than the Sun, this is the only reaction that takes place. In stars more massive than the Sun (but less massive than about 8 solar masses), further reactions that convert helium to carbon and oxygen take place in succesive stages of stellar evolution. In the very massive stars, the reaction chain continues to produce elements like silicon upto iron.
Elements higher than iron cannot be formed through fusion as one has to supply energy for the reaction to take place. However, we do see elements higher than iron around us. So how did these elements form? The answer is supernovae. In a supernova explosion, neutron capture reactions take place (this is not fusion), leading to the formation of heavy elements. This is the reason why it is said that most of the stuff that we see around us come from stars and supernovae (the heavy elements part). If you go into technical details, then there are two processes of neutron capture called rapid process (r-process) and the slow process (s-process), and these lead to formation of different elements.
So far as a creator, you seem to miss the point of a sigularity. A singularity, where the universe once resided, is so small, protons would be millions of times larger. The point of the matter is, according to Newtons laws of motion, for every reaction--the Big Bang, there had to be a preceding action. If the entire universe was contained in one sinularity--and nothing else was outside of it, what was the ACTION, that started the Big Bang REaction??
of course it's a theory. No one was witness to it, except the Father.
But the point is, what theory overrules the Big Bang? None so far. In fact, as Einstien and every physicist since him has proven, the evidence of a 'Big Bang' is the only explanation.
Otherwise, explain the discovery of the background microwaves found at Bell Labs in 1965. How do you explain the expansion of the universe, at such a high rate?? No other theory explains this.
It's only a theory in so much there was no witnesses. This doesn't mean it isn't proveable.
Exactly!! Exactly!! Thank you so much for this quote from the bible.
Something's ARE unknowable to us--like how do you reconcile Quantum theory with the physics our known universe? The so-called UNIFIED theory Einstein spent the rest of his life searching to find, but never did.
This just goes to further prove that searching for proof of God's work is as easy as looking into the eyes of another human being. If evolution is the answer, and science the key--we have all the materials we need to make life, why hasn't science achieved this yet?
Certainly we have the water, minerals, material, etc., to assemble life. Why can't we create it in a laboratory? IF, as the evolutionists tell us, life came together in a bastion of amino acids to form DNA, and a spark of electricity transformed it into life--then why hasn't science replicated this?
Any real educated person would have to admit that the beginning of life is beyond our capability to create spontaneously
And the only being that could produce it--obviously did. Why doubt his ability if you can't repeat it?
Obviously God.
And what started the action that started the action that started the Big Bang?
The answer is very simple--God. The problem is, you refuse to accept the answer that physics and science is proving daily. There was a beginning action, and it rested with an outside, ALIEN to our universe, force. It had to be, otherwise, it would be part of our universe and therefore contained in the singularity.
Einstein, for the better part of his life before he died in 1955, sought the answer to why Quantum theory is beyond what we know about the physics of the universe--he sought a so-called UNIFIED THEORY of the Universe. For instance: The Electrons Quantum Leap--an electron moves from one energy level to another, it doesn't gradually pass through all the energy levels in-between. Instead, there is a "Quantum leap", and the electron instantly leaps from one energy level to the next. In general, a Quantum leap is when a particle changes from one Quantum State to another. It's as if you were trailing someone, and you saw them at different points, but never saw them get there.
The greatest minds of our age have been unable to explain this--but it's answer lies in what we already know. The creator of the universe had his own timetable and his own laws.
Excellent point -- and it's worth noting that eternity pretty much has to be "bigger than" time or space-time.
Preceding is perhaps a little too wide or loose for old Newton. Simultaneous, perhaps, rather than preceding.
It's not obvious, it's just one possible answer. Still God would have to come from somewhere and he'd have to have some reason to create the universe.
As I remarked quite some while ago on FR, the Judeo-Christian-Islamic perception of an infinitely omnipotent & benevolent deity is simply illogical. If an omnipotent deity were infinitely holy, then there would exist no evil with which It could find offense.... In my estimation, there are only eight resolutions to this paradox, none of which appear acceptable to contemporary Christian consciousness. In no particular order:
1) A dualist deity
2) A limited deity
3) Multiple deities
4) A capricious deity
5) An irrational deity
6) An indifferent deity
7) No deity
8) A dead deity...
Whatever the case, for all practical intents, further inquiry into God's nature appears inconsequential for all practical purposes.
PS. One might also posit that evil does not exist as a universal, absolute principle outside of our own value judgments. Everything which happens is accordant to the designs or wishes of such a deity, which finds it all 'good' in Its regard.
Sounds like a constraint on the Infinite. The Infinite might find this amusing.
Well, so is the concept of God, since if God were more than a theory, there wouldn't be all this mindnumbing debate. The Eifle Tower is not a theory, you can go touch it, you can get postcards, no one debates the "essence" of the Eifle Tower.
Truthfully, neither The Big bang Theory, nor the Theory of Evolution have any effect at all on the question of whether there is a universal morality, i.e. a universal religion. As for the idea of God, unless you make a trivialized anthropomorphic figure of clay to represent him (a Michaelangelo figure touching the hand of Adam), well there isn't much of a definition that makes much sense to human brains. Define an omnipotent, omniscient creator in plain English, and you have distilled God to something akin to a saturday morning cartoon figure.
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