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Divorce and Remarriage: Call it what Jesus calls it … Adultery!
11-23-02 | Ex-Wretch

Posted on 11/23/2002 5:07:20 PM PST by Ex-Wretch

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Kinda like for them that have ears to hear! Can't help but shout it like a watchman. Just as it was in the days of Noah ...
1 posted on 11/23/2002 5:07:20 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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To: Ex-Wretch
Thank God for mercy!

All we do for Him, should be done in the spirit of love. We can't condemn people into the kingdom, we have to LOVE them in.

I'm certain you agree. Your post has a taint of condemnation to it. I just hope the compassion of Christ is equally prevalent in your other efforts at witness.

Bless you,

John 10:9

Revealtion 22:17
2 posted on 11/23/2002 5:16:14 PM PST by Radical Poet
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For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? (1 Peter 4:17,18)

To warn someone from impending peril is love.

There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.(Proverbs 16:25)

3 posted on 11/23/2002 5:52:56 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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Matthew 5:32 "But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery."

Gee, that sure sounds as if there is a case where one may divorce.

4 posted on 11/23/2002 8:52:19 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: Ex-Wretch
Divorce and remarriage...call it adultery.

Sometimes Jesus calls it "Adultery with an asterisk."

Adultery****

5 posted on 11/23/2002 9:09:24 PM PST by xzins
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To: FormerLib
... "and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery."

God hates divorce, plain and simple. Nevertheless, where in Jesus' statement do you find his approval to remarry?

6 posted on 11/24/2002 1:05:51 AM PST by Ex-Wretch
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To: Ex-Wretch
As God is good, He should not seem so cruel as to suffer people through irrepairable marriages, determined, of course, but by His accounting of our soul's merits.

This was recognized early in the promulgation of Mosaic law, and bears consideration, I believe, as tragic as divorce indeed always is - especially where children are concerned - for the spiritual and social sake of the individual and society.

7 posted on 11/24/2002 12:23:55 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Ex-Wretch
God hates divorce, plain and simple.

God hates sin is how I would put it.

Nevertheless, where in Jesus' statement do you find his approval to remarry?

Here: "But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery..."

At that time, a Jew could remarry after any divorce. Jesus has just narrowed the permissibility. The implication clearly is that the sin of adultery can destroy a marriage. I don't believe that Jesus expects someone to remain in a marriage when the other party treats the institution as a farce.

8 posted on 11/24/2002 1:36:42 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Separating because of an adulterous spouse is because forgiveness is not forthcoming from the abused spouse. Even so, if they put the offending party away (divorce) given the permission you note, you still miss the other question, namely: Where is the Lord's permission/blessing to remarry someone other than his/her original spouse? Point being ... HE NEVER GAVE APPROVAL, PERMISSION OR BLESSING. Why? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ADULTERY! If the couple reconcile or if one spouse dies. Those are the only allowances provided. All else is not blessed by Him.
9 posted on 11/24/2002 1:59:23 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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To: sandyeggo
"Life is a speck compared to eternity."

That is a big 10-4! :)

11 posted on 11/24/2002 3:52:58 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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HE NEVER GAVE APPROVAL, PERMISSION OR BLESSING.

No, you miss the point. Jesus is not discussing this with people for whom this idea is a blank slate. Jewish practice at the time allowed for remarriage after divorce. Now Jesus is saying that divorce is only acceptable for a very narrow set of circumstances and he does not even mention remarriage. That suggests that he is not modifying the practice concerning remarriage after divorce, only that he is restricting divorce.

12 posted on 11/24/2002 4:20:03 PM PST by FormerLib
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Let me guess. Are you divorced and remarried or married to a divorced person?
13 posted on 11/24/2002 8:21:49 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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Let me guess. Are you divorced and remarried or married to a divorced person?

You guess poorly. I am neither.

I have no personal stake in this, but I do have a habit of challenging incorrect Biblical interpretations.

14 posted on 11/24/2002 8:27:52 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Tell it to Jesus. He made the rules.
15 posted on 11/24/2002 8:30:11 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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To: Ex-Wretch
Yes, He made the rules...but you misread them.

Unlike you, I don't tell Jesus anything. I only listen, and He tells us "...I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality..."

I guess you'll set Him straight someday.

16 posted on 11/24/2002 8:33:07 PM PST by FormerLib
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When He ok's adultery, I'll be sure to jump right in. Same with fornication, sodomy, theft, murder, etc. Wheeee! Can live just like the world and make it to heaven. What a deal!
17 posted on 11/24/2002 8:37:23 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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When He ok's adultery, I'll be sure to jump right in. Same with fornication, sodomy, theft, murder, etc. Wheeee! Can live just like the world and make it to heaven.

Somehow, I was hoping for a higher level of discussion from one of you guys. Just once. It would have been a first. Ah well, time to move on to a serious discussion. Ranting nonsense I can get anywhere.

Goodbye.

18 posted on 11/24/2002 8:43:38 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: Ex-Wretch
I agree ..BUT We have a Savior ...

If there is TRUE repentance that like all sin is covered in the blood of Chriat

1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

I hate divorce but I am not sure it is worse than other sins..it is just more visible

19 posted on 11/24/2002 9:01:04 PM PST by RnMomof7
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1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

Understand correctly. The divorce happens one time. You repent. It is forgiven. You then remarry(to someone other than your spouse). You commit adultery and are living in a continual state of adultery. Do you live in a constant state of repentance? I don't think so. To repent means to break off from doing it. God does not bless an adulterous union! Otherwise, you could use your justification for rape, murder, drunkeness, etc. We are to get the victory over the flesh, sin and the world (i.e. "be ye holy as I am holy", "let him that nameth the name of Christ depart from all iniquity")

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;(Romans 3:25)

Get it? No approval ever given to live in sin.

20 posted on 11/25/2002 8:52:23 AM PST by Ex-Wretch
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