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Burial Box of St. James (A Catholic Perspective)
Catholic Answers ^ | Oct 22, 2002 | James Akin

Posted on 10/26/2002 1:59:09 PM PDT by polemikos

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To: berned
That little box just debunked the whole lying Roman Catholic monstrosity. Hee Hee!!!!!

Oh Pipe down. The conclsions drawn by the so-called experts are merely conjecture. We can see how accurate experts are when they profile snipers. Your glee is premature, and for your soul's sake, a passing fancy.

141 posted on 10/29/2002 6:03:11 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: RnMomof7
It must be a terrible burden worrying over your Catholic husband, the Eucharistic minister.

Do you ever get the feeling that the elect are dwindling? The urge to say so to your fellow Bible "scholars" ands finally to say to one you trust most: Sometimes it seems like it is just thee and me and I am not always sure about thee?

142 posted on 10/29/2002 6:10:30 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: St.Chuck
After the discovery of the James Ossuary, Bible loving Christians feel exactly like conservatives would feel if a slam-dunk smoking-gun videotape of the clinton's committing a high crime were to surface.

And the reaction of Catholic Freepers to the Ossuary is exactly identical to how liberals would respond to the aforementioned videotape. They would brush it off and hurl insults, but under NO circumstances, would they ever wise up to the reality of what THEY worship really truly is.

This whole thing has been rather enlightening on several different levels.

143 posted on 10/29/2002 6:21:35 PM PST by berned
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To: drstevej
"James-in-the-Box would make a nice addition! "

LOL.. I don't think we'll be seeing that on the shelf of your local Catholic Bookstore for sometime. :)

144 posted on 10/29/2002 6:28:45 PM PST by Joshua
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To: Joshua

145 posted on 10/29/2002 6:32:22 PM PST by drstevej
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To: berned
You have trouble understanding my posts (one is not surprised) BUT you are an all purpose expert on Scripture and Aramaic without proving it.

Are dinosaurs unScriptural and therefore non-existent? Render for us in Aramaic: The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. Nothing terribly complicated there. Nothing terribly complicated about your refusal to answer two simple questions either.

Your big problem is that the members of the oldest and largest and original Christian Church are not lapping at your feet and rendering to you the status of expert at quite the level you claim for yourself.

I feared you were heading toward sola Dead Scrolla.

What invalidates as evidence the magical mystery box or boxtop as the case may be of the desert sands is the absolute lack of even a contemporary chain of evidence and the fact that people will feel a bit more respectful when the inscrutable secret and unknowable Muslim buyer and seller(s) are a bit more forthcoming as to how they obtained it and the present owner is willing to allow scholarly examination by those not captive "scholars".

If you can't respond to someone like you imagine me to be, don't respond lest we think you can.

146 posted on 10/29/2002 6:42:33 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
"DO you believe in dinosaurs? IS the world roughly and merely 6,000 years old as fantasized by the hilarious buffoon and computer of the cumulative years of the Genesis begats "

Some scholars believe that there are references to dinosuars in the book of Job. There are also scholars that believe the first chapter of Genesis points to an earth older than 6000 years.

What's your point?

147 posted on 10/29/2002 6:47:27 PM PST by Joshua
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To: St.Chuck
Not only that but the experts seem to conclude that it is QUITE UNLIKELY that scholarly respect will EVER be tendered to boxes or boxtops found, perhaps, in the desert sands by whomever, whenever, and sold to whomever for $70 but not available to be examined by other than personal stooges posing as scholars and not available to be viewed by the public "because of the cost of insurance" as though every anti-Catholic looney tune in Creation would not gladly pay the insurance and enrich the mystery Muslim. Gee, what skeptics!!!!!
148 posted on 10/29/2002 6:48:26 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: drstevej
ROTFL!!!!!!! Good one!
149 posted on 10/29/2002 6:48:38 PM PST by Joshua
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To: BlackElk
Do you not agree that Biblical Archaeology Review is an outstanding scholarly journal with a long standing reputation?

I still believe peer review is warrranted, but BAR is not a catholic-bashing outfit. Nor is it a johnny-come-lately rag looking to make a splash.

150 posted on 10/29/2002 6:48:40 PM PST by drstevej
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To: berned
After the discovery of the James Ossuary, Bible loving Christians feel exactly like conservatives would feel if a slam-dunk smoking-gun videotape of the clinton's committing a high crime were to surface.

Oh? I don't think you speak for Bible loving Christians or conservatives. Neither are as sanctimonious and as biggoted as you come across as. What would you gain if your malice toward the RCC were somehow justified?

151 posted on 10/29/2002 6:50:01 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: BlackElk
BUT you are an all purpose expert on Scripture and Aramaic without proving it.

I'm not an expert. I'm just a common man with the brain that God gave me and the ability to read the Bible, which God wrote for people like me to read as a check & balance against religious org's who try to LIE in order to obtain power. (Like the RCC)

The Roman Catholic Church, on the other hand DID purport itself to be not only EXPERT on the Bible, but INFALLIBLE as well!

Now their line of hogwash has been utterly destroyed and debunked by a little stone box.

What you guys are unable to respond to is that what is written on the box MERELY CONFIRMS & CORROBORATES what the Bible already plainly says! Joseph and Mary had FOUR OTHER SONS besides Jesus. One of them was James.

Now we've found James' burial box, which merely confirms what we already (from the Bible) knew. His father was Joseph and his brother was Jesus. Why is that non-understandable "rocket science" to you guys?

152 posted on 10/29/2002 7:08:39 PM PST by berned
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To: St.Chuck
What would you gain if your malice toward the RCC were somehow justified?

We believe the Roman Catholic Church is the "Whore of Babylon" spoken of in Revelation. God commands His people to "come OUT OF" this organization or else they will share in the horrifying punishments God will mete out to the Whore.

It's not "optional" to God. Once people have identified the Whore "His people" must "Come out of her" (clearly implying that some of His people are currently IN her). This is mega-serious stuff, the theological equivalent of nuclear war.

It's as life-and-death as it gets.

153 posted on 10/29/2002 7:16:48 PM PST by berned
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To: berned
LOL. I gotta tell you, I love it when you pop out of your little coven. You are always true to character, and provide comic relief on what can be otherwise regarded as a fairly serious forum. Someday I should get around to pitying you, but for now, thanks.
154 posted on 10/29/2002 7:21:28 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
There is nothing funny about it. You should read Revelation.

I'll say it again. This is as life-and-death as it gets.

155 posted on 10/29/2002 7:28:00 PM PST by berned
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To: berned
We believe the Roman Catholic Church is the "Whore of Babylon" spoken of in Revelation.

Who's we? There are more like you?

God commands His people to "come OUT OF" this organization or else they will share in the horrifying punishments God will mete out to the Whore.

Ok. So you came out of the whore. Are you also commanded to abuse and harrass her?

156 posted on 10/29/2002 7:29:42 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: BlackElk
Well I agree it is a false teaching ..but it is from such stuff that the idea of Mary being presented to the temple to be a temple virgin , and that Joseph was an old man..that was my point in the comment
157 posted on 10/29/2002 7:43:33 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: BlackElk
He has heard the gospel if he chooses to walk in darkness he has plenty of company..Tradition is more important than truth to lots of folks..It is sad ..but it is also not over till the last breath is drawn...Kairos

The number of elect and their names were written before the foundation of the earth and when the last one comes it is time for the final judgement..

158 posted on 10/29/2002 7:52:12 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: St.Chuck
Why do you think we Fundamentalist Christians spend our precious time debating with you Catholics on these threads?

Why do you think we expose ourselves to endure your personal insults against us, some of which have been so vitriolic that Catholic Freepers have been banned because of them?

We do it because the issues are life-and-death. And because you guys don't study your Bibles and don't appear to take God's Word seriously. But you claw at our faces like drowning men who fight those trying to help them.

Ok. So you came out of the whore. Are you also commanded to abuse and harrass her?

YES!!! From Revelation 18:

4Then I heard another voice calling from heaven, "Come away from her, my people. Do not take part in her sins, or you will be punished with her.5For her sins are piled as high as heaven, and God is ready to judge her for her evil deeds.6Do to her as she has done to your people. Give her a double penalty for all her evil deeds. She brewed a cup of terror for others, so give her twice as much as she gave out.

159 posted on 10/29/2002 7:56:05 PM PST by berned
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To: berned
Astounding that you would turn a book of consolation into a book of condemnation!YOPIOS or the gospel according to LaHaye?
160 posted on 10/29/2002 8:22:29 PM PST by St.Chuck
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