Posted on 06/07/2002 6:07:04 AM PDT by maryz
Anyone hear Michael Rose on Howie Carr today? He had him on for two or three segments. I wasn't home for the whole thing, but I do have it on tape. I'll listen to the whole thing and see if it seems worth transcribing.
From the letter:
Anything to do with sex was grave matter to be handled by the seminary confessor, a retired priest whose indignant voice roared through the chapel when he scolded a boy for masturbating. I don’t blame the priests on the faculty for this. They were good and dedicated people, and they gave us an excellent education in all subjects. They treated sex as everybody did then; it was not a subject for public discussion. . . .
When I was 22, I went to a big seminary for theology. . . .
This was the end of the ’60s and beginning of the ’70s, the time of the sexual revolution in segments of the popular culture when “free sex” was touted as normal, healthy and hip.
I have thought for a while (and thinking harder since the scandal started to break) that the timing of Vatican II was disastrous (literally "of a bad star") in its collision with the sex-drug-let-it-all-hang-out-do-your-own-thing revolution, and that an awful synergy resulted and is still working its way through the Church.
This guy (and I have no reason not to take his word at face value, and even allowing for a certain "gloss" that we all tend to give our own stories for public consumption) was especially ill-placed to withstand the storm. Those of us outside quite such a sheltered environment had at least a bit more of a chance to keep our equilibrium.
I think we agreed on the other thread on the need for discretion in treating one-time offenders. Would that so many our bishops had not shown themselves incapable of exercising any honorable kind of discretion. Another tragedy -- like the idiot judges in the criminal courts, who roused such outrage among the citizenry with their hair-brained decisions that legislatures took sentencing into their own hands, so that the judges actually capable of just judgment are as hog-tied as the zanies.
I'M SO MAD!!! I missed it!I had 96.9 on default (Imus, Bill O) and therefore, I had Jay Severin on and not Howie Carr. And he doesn't have a rebroadcast at all. I'm getting sick of being a day late and a dollar short.
I'll try to transcribe it tomorrow or Sunday and post it. The high point I remember is the guy who called in about a friend of his who was at St. John's, I think in the 70s(?). He and the other nine straights were so harrassed by the gays that they left. At one point the guy's friend complained to whoever was in charge, who told him he would have to get used to a "new vision of the priesthood."
My parish took a collection up a few weeks ago for the MA seminaries (no, I did not contribute) and my priest said that he knows the priest in charge at St. John's and he is a good guy - but, since my priest has never addressed the crisis as one stemming from disobedience to Rome or a problem of homosexuality in the seminaries, they'll have to do without my $$$. I hear St. John's has been cleaned up, but who knows.
BTW, you would get a kick out of this website: "Fr. Bob Carr's blogspot" - his columns are pretty good, and then click on "the e-cathedral" and read "the lady in the pew" columns - especially the ones about women in the church and her take on VOTF.
Addressing your comment on the post to which I am responding,did you ever read Thomas Sowell's book, "A Conflict of Visions"? It is a wonderful read and the beginning of my own development of a workable sorting process.
After I read it it became clear to me that within the Church in America we had two factions with two visions. I used to write letters to the editor of the diocesan newspaper and to clearly differentiate I took to calling one faction,members of the Catholic Church and the other faction,members of the "Church of the New and Different Vision".
The paper was in the possession of the Church of the New and Different Vision,and did not print but one of my letters.
Sounds like you were lucky to get even one printed! Somebody must have been napping.
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