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Common Creationist Arguments - Pseudoscience
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationism/Arguments/Pseudoscience.shtml ^

Posted on 03/13/2002 4:47:26 AM PST by JediGirl

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To: tallhappy
Why do you keep talking about someone else? I have not read any of his posts.

They weren't about molecular biology. They were about not second-guessing the Designer. That's pretty unbeatable science, but not very informative.

Why am I reading your posts? Where is that bozo filter?

941 posted on 03/20/2002 12:47:49 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Heartlander
I see you are quoting from:

Mere Creation conference, originally titled "Redesigning Science."
William A. Dembski, Ph.D.
Center for the Philosophy of Religion, University of Notre Dame

The linked article makes claims but does nothing to substantiate them.

I do not exclude pseudo-random number generators nor cryptographic work. Perhaps you could explain how the existence (or non-existence) of a pseudo-random number generator has bearing on evolutionary biology.

942 posted on 03/20/2002 12:53:26 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: VadeRetro
Well, when you think of something actually on-topic and informative, force yourself!

I was. How quickly you walked away from differences between eukaryotes and prokaryotes and the molecules that define them.

943 posted on 03/20/2002 12:53:52 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: VadeRetro
Why am I reading your posts?

Because you know I know a lot more than you (an understatement) on the topic and that I am making very valid points that you understand.

944 posted on 03/20/2002 12:55:22 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Perhaps you could explain how the existence (or non-existence) of a pseudo-random number generator has bearing on evolutionary biology.

Interesting rhetorical approaches.

Anyhow then, what was that program Dawkins wrote and talked about distributed with Blind Watchmaker? I forget the name.

945 posted on 03/20/2002 12:57:40 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
You guys claim...

Ahh, the truth comes out...! You make sweeping generalizations, but specify nothing.

To paraphrase the old line from Top Gun, "your ego's writing checks your intellect can't cash..."

Put up or shut up. Facts or silence... A lack of facts on your part is a demonstration that you have no facts...

Of course, since you have no leg to stand on, I wonder what the next lame tactic will be, from you...?

No doubt, it'll be as empty-headed and factually vacuous as the rest of your posts... Now that I really think about it, you're simply amusing. You're a joke, and you don't even know it...

946 posted on 03/20/2002 1:03:52 PM PST by Capitalist Eric
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To: Capitalist Eric
net rage
947 posted on 03/20/2002 1:07:19 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Sir, did you read my entire post and the link it referenced?
Logic and mathematical probability should factor into the evolution theory – I would think.
948 posted on 03/20/2002 1:07:49 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: tallhappy
Because you know I know a lot more than you (an understatement) on the topic and that I am making very valid points that you understand.

Actually, you're totally irrelevant. Cover for the Luddites. Only you don't succeed at this.

How quickly you walked away from differences between eukaryotes and prokaryotes and the molecules that define them.

That does have a relevance for this thread, but you haven't made a dent in it. Even the mitochondria which you mentioned also have a relevance of which I assume you're aware. The likely history of such bodies in eukaryotes is another thing that guy whose posts you claim to have not read would toss out with his big ID-er shrug.

You see, you jumped into a conversation. That guy whose posts you have not read thinks you take the fossil evidence for life on earth and say, "Well, He did it that way. Who can say why?"

Can you defend this? Want to stay with mitosis and meiosis for a while? Why does sex matter?

What is the story of mitochondria in eukaryotes?

You see, my point is not that I can baffle with BS. That's your point, that you hope you can.

My point is that there is a story, not that I'm perfect at telling it. The irrelevant Luddites whose posts you don't read are throwing away the story.

949 posted on 03/20/2002 1:10:18 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: tallhappy
I have not read any of his posts.

I forget the name.

You're . . . incredible.

950 posted on 03/20/2002 1:13:11 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
"Were it not for the existence of sin in the world, says Calvin, human beings would believe in God to the same degree and with the same natural spontaneity displayed in our belief in the existence of other persons, or an external world, or the past. This is the natural human condition; it is because of our presently... unnatural---sinful condition that many of us find belief in God difficult or absurd. The fact is, Calvin thinks, one who does not believe in God is in an epistemically defective position-rather like someone who does not believe that his wife exists, or thinks that she is a cleverly constructed robot that has no thoughts, feelings, or consciousness."
951 posted on 03/20/2002 1:15:21 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Is reasoning from evidence sin?
952 posted on 03/20/2002 1:16:15 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Evidence from a dead man---bank robber--murderer...kinda ojsimpsonish!
953 posted on 03/20/2002 1:19:00 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: VadeRetro
Lurking ...
(It's all one can do when you-know-who is blustering around.)
954 posted on 03/20/2002 1:25:22 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Capitalist Eric
What are you babbling about.

Please focus and remember coherence is important.

955 posted on 03/20/2002 1:25:33 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: f.Christian
Evidence from a dead man---bank robber--murderer...kinda ojsimpsonish!

False accusations?
Strange flame-war thread diversion.
I kill no robber.

956 posted on 03/20/2002 1:25:39 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
(It's all one can do when you-know-who is blustering around.)

Come on up, it's toothless!

957 posted on 03/20/2002 1:26:30 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Come on up, it's toothless!

What is-- the platypus?

958 posted on 03/20/2002 1:27:48 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian
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To: VadeRetro
Cover for the Luddites.

Um, are you familiar with the term reading things in to things? Kind of like projection.

You have a very fixed and limited view and seem to only be able to relate to preconceived notions in your own little noggin.

959 posted on 03/20/2002 1:28:03 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I'd say he already knows the platypus is toothless but I won't go there.
960 posted on 03/20/2002 1:28:34 PM PST by VadeRetro
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