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The Danger of Wrongly-Based Rituals - Evangelical Caucus/Devotional
Gracetoyou.org ^ | 2008 | John MacArthur, Grace Community Church

Posted on 08/16/2025 3:56:41 AM PDT by metmom

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1 posted on 08/16/2025 3:56:42 AM PDT by metmom
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Studying God’s Word ping


2 posted on 08/16/2025 3:57:17 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: metmom

A sound article on praying to saints:
Should we pray to or speak to the dead?
https://www.compellingtruth.org/pray-to-dead.html

Here’s another article on lighting candles for the dead.
Is it biblical to light candles for the dead?
https://www.gotquestions.org/light-candles-dead.html


3 posted on 08/16/2025 4:15:35 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: metmom

“Some practices, such as praying to saints or lighting candles for the dead, are heretical.”

Thank you for your honest studies - some here would call you a heretic for pointing out common heresies.

I need to start taking more time thinking of God’s goodness as I say Grace - your post made me realize I have become like a parrot rather than a thinking worshipper in that area.


4 posted on 08/16/2025 4:20:18 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: trebb

It’s easy to do.

I think after enough time, taking things for granted happens to everyone. Seems to be part of human nature.


5 posted on 08/16/2025 4:23:17 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: ViLaLuz

“Should we pray to or speak to the dead?”
“Is it biblical to light candles for the dead”

It’s weird that anyone would think either is OK when #1 is specifically prohibited in Scripture, and #2 is an idea made up by humans to generate revenue.


6 posted on 08/16/2025 4:44:45 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: metmom
Rituals and discipline have their place. They become a problem when they replace love, devotion and faith in Christ.

Paul, the great apostle/teacher of grace and faith maintained certain rituals, while preaching the gospel. In Acts 18:18, it is mentioned that Paul had his head shaved at Cenchrea because he had taken a vow.

There may be ulterior (Godly) motives to a Christian's behavior and his rituals. " I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means [in any and every way] save some by leading them to faith in Jesus Christ." - 1 Cor 9:22

7 posted on 08/16/2025 5:24:02 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

Indeed, but it was voluntary, not forced on him by a *church* as part of religious requirements allegedly for holy living or gaining favor from God.


8 posted on 08/16/2025 5:36:30 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: metmom

Just read Hebrews 10 last night, first half , the old covenant, summarized:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Second half the chapter, summarized v 12:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;


9 posted on 08/16/2025 5:40:34 AM PDT by sopo
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To: sopo

sorry, that is 10:12


10 posted on 08/16/2025 5:42:01 AM PDT by sopo
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To: sopo

10-4
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11 posted on 08/16/2025 7:41:11 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: metmom

I started fasting for spiritual reasons several years ago. I soon realized that I was losing weight (and I really needed to lose weight).

Pretty soon, my focus shifted from fasting for a closer relationship to God to fasting for weight loss.

It’s difficult to keep the focus on Him in my fasting.


12 posted on 08/16/2025 8:53:18 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: trebb

The old saying of *Familiarity breeds contempt* holds true on ALL levels of our lives.

We need constant vigilance to avoid that.


13 posted on 08/16/2025 12:10:51 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: metmom

To stir the pot, what about the ritual of tithing?


14 posted on 08/16/2025 2:14:41 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Yup.

That too.

“The NT does not teach tithing, but offerings as each person is moved to give.

Seems like a lot of churches get pretty legalistic about it.


15 posted on 08/16/2025 3:23:00 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Not so fast.

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-bible-supports-praying-to-the-saints

Let’s see if anyone actually reads this or just girls the usual insults.


16 posted on 08/16/2025 4:18:22 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
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To: Texas_Guy

Weird.


17 posted on 08/16/2025 4:36:44 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: metmom

Obligatory self-righteous “checking the boxes” accomplishes nothing, unless you work in a points-based system.


18 posted on 08/16/2025 5:26:10 PM PDT by Old Yeller
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To: Old Yeller

I am becoming fully aware, though I likely still have a long way to go, just how incapable I am of doing ONE. SINGLE. THING. that could possibly offset the amount of sin I’ve committed in my life.

Since all creation is under the corruption of sin, even my very best, purest efforts, which are more likely to happen by accident than not, are tainted with sin and could not influence God in the least to save me, if I appealed to them.

The ONLY thing possible is the righteousness of Christ credited to my account be God Himself. My appeal is pointing to Jesus, saying He did it.


19 posted on 08/16/2025 5:37:34 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Weird is breaking away and forming your own Christianity based on what you think.


20 posted on 08/16/2025 7:04:52 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
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