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Southern Baptists Clash As Vote Looms Over Amendment To Ban Female Pastors
The Federalist ^ | 06/11/2024 | Monroe Harless

Posted on 06/11/2024 8:37:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: circlecity

Should have been 100%.


21 posted on 06/12/2024 6:43:57 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind

Aside from the Scripture and theology ...

The practical reason for rejecting women as pastors/preachers/priests is that the women who clamor most loudly for admittance to such ministry are manifestly unfit for it. They see it as a matter of power rather than service.


22 posted on 06/12/2024 6:49:51 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Exactlt! “have a nomenclature problem. These churches may title women as pastors even though they are not actually serving in lead roles, such as children’s pastors.”

If it is just a matter of how a title is phrased, and not PRIDE, then changing the title to “Children’s Teacher” would be easy and satisfy everyone. But the problem is - largely in black churches - where the wife of the pastor is also called “pastor” - and she wants everyone to know she is Head Chick!

If nothing is done, then you end up with churches like Jimmy Carter’s old church, hiring a divorced woman as head pastor.

“Let Christ himself be your example as to what your attitude should be. For he, who had always been God by nature, did not cling to his prerogatives as God’s equal, but stripped himself of all privilege by consenting to be a slave by nature and being born as mortal man. And, having become man, he humbled himself by living a life of utter obedience, even to the extent of dying, and the death he died was the death of a common criminal.” - Philippians 2

I’ve been a deacon, but I’ll never be a pastor. So what? The God who plants oak trees also plants wildflowers. And grass. If He wants me to be a bit of grass instead of an oak, I need to be the best bit of grass I can be - and not envy the oak!


23 posted on 06/12/2024 7:03:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

As my professor told me, hermeneutics is the most important class. Everyone uses hermeneutics. The problem is, liberalization of hermeneutics will spit out a theology unknown to the Reformers and Puritans. Such as we have today.

“Knowing Scripture” by RC Sproul is the gold star standard, IMHO. “Basic Bible Interpretation” by Roy Zuck is a close second.


24 posted on 06/12/2024 8:10:07 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: SeekAndFind

Please God, ban female pastors. Please.


25 posted on 06/12/2024 8:50:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Salvavida

Grant Osbourn’s “The hermeneutical Spiral” is also very good.


26 posted on 06/12/2024 8:51:00 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Amendment narrowly failed.


27 posted on 06/12/2024 9:26:11 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: NorthMountain

Further, if you are going to ignore the Word on this what’s next modern mans/women’s desire the liberals can introduce: women deacons, gay pastors and deacons, gay Sunday school teachers, drag shows for the youth classes? You have just said we approve of women pastors never mind what God said, so now that you speak for God as to what is right and wrong, where does this sleigh ride end. History shows us.

All the other denominations have went down this road and all are floundering so what does the liberal leadership of the SBC do, take the wide open road of least opposition and get hip. The leftist will hate you less but still hold you in contempt and the anti-religious crowd will still hate you just as much and mock you as always and like their leftist kin still hold you in contempt.


28 posted on 06/12/2024 9:33:29 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: sarge83

Or every Church winds up being like Jim Jones’ “Peoples Temple”, sans Kool-Aid.


29 posted on 06/12/2024 9:34:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The way this has been reported has been quite convoluted. The current SBC doctrine already disallows women in senior pastoral positions. The same delegates at this convention just voted the other day to expel another church - with 92% of the vote - that had women in pastoral roles.

The controversy over this particular amendment was over how broad this language was in seeming to disfellowship any church that had women in any church leadership roles at all. With its failure to pass, it is seemingly being reported that the SBC voted to “allow” female pastors. Clearly, that is not correct, as the vote did not change the established doctrine of the SBC, and the same messengers who voted this down also voted 92% to completely expel another church for having female pastors.


30 posted on 06/16/2024 8:13:18 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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