Posted on 04/27/2024 9:55:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
When I was a child and visiting the local Methodist church in my town, I could see how it had shallow underpinnings in Scripture.
This continues to bot surprise me, sadly. I knew some good people who went there.
In a 1915 book of fables by Horace Scudder, the story titled The Arab and His Camel ends with the moral: “It is a wise rule to resist the beginnings of evil
I thought The moral of “The Arab and his Camel” lies in the consequences of yielding to small requests.
In the fable, a camel convinces its master to allow it to put its nose inside the tent during a cold desert night. As the camel gradually occupies more space, it ultimately displaces the Arab, taking over the entire tent.
Regards,
I’ll offer the opinion that the U-M crowd is dying out, and the strategy for the past 20 years...to replace the maturing generation...is to bring in oddball characters who mostly have illusions about their life.
Meanwhile, the maturing crowd (still alive and kicking) are shaking their heads because the new membership folks don’t readily fit.
Apparently the United Methodist Church has theological variances.
Did they get that approved with Him ?
"My kid can do no wrong, and I'll deny the Bible if I have to!"
To be fair, as time passed they also had an increasingly apostate parade of pastors from the seminaries. As of 2024, they can fit the entire attendance of a normal Sunday service in a school bus and still have room for a couple of obese drag queens... and are as self-righteous and smug in their "tolerance" as they can be.
Maybe they could allow regions to adopt a position of atheism for their region as well.
This is pure insanity. You can’t have a domination where anything goes and still be a denomination.
Sadly, that describes a lot of Evangelical churches when I was growing up. Vacation Bible School has become “big business” with massive layouts, bounce houses and rides, and other attractions. Instead of it being for children of members, churches advertise to try to attract non-members. Some churches even CHARGE for it.
My gut feeling is this is this ruling was made by the Un-Godly WOKE, Jezebel big wigs in the denomination to keep their funds from drying up as more Godly members/Churches decide to leave the denominations and take their money with them.
As well they should. There is nothing wrong with advertising VBS to non-member families. When I was younger, my family did not go to church, but I was allowed to go to VBS because it was FF....fun and free.
As I got a little older, I saw the sign on the local church for Sunday school, and figured Sunday School had to be similar to VBS. I had also attended VBS there. I started showing up and attending Sunday School. Then I started staying for the church services. I was the only one in my family to go to church. Today, with children of my own. I encourage them to go and participate.
VBS reaches many children whom otherwise would not be exposed to Christ.
"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Mathew 19:14
It’s more of a conference thing. I’m in the Holston Conference and it is pretty conservative. Our preacher is a charismatic who became a UMC pastor. Very Bible-based and nothing but old hymns (except for Gaither of course). He’s retiring and we are getting a guy fresh out of cemetery, er seminary. One of my UMC pastor friends said we will have to “unlearn” him some things.
The United Methodist Church where we now live was the largest church. It just split because 40% didn’t want the promotion of homosexuality. The spin off is doing great.
As the umc yields more and more of its soul to Satan... (that is not to say all churches in umc are, just that some are- they are abandoning God’s word in favor of pleasing the immoral masses
Before God said that, he admonished everyone in Matthew 18:6:
“But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” When I see what the United Methodist are preaching these days, I am reminded by Ephesians 4:14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming, and Isaiah 9:16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed. Indeed, God does move in mysterious ways. Out of this chaos in the Methodist Church will come clarity.
True! VBS was huge .with us kids (although we went to baptist church VBS)- it did reach lots of kids who otherwise wouldn’t go to church.
“The spirit listed where it will” meaning that as long as the aord of God is being preached, the ho.y spirit can work in the lives of folks as God’s word will not return void. Paul spoke about men during his time that weren’t exactly following God’s word to a “t”, and he thanked God that at least God’s word was getting out and he was thankful for that. Most churches today fit the category of those men who’s teaching were off some. Some are quite off- but God can and does work even in those churches as long as the word is being given out, and folks seek salvation not through works, or dues, or attendance, but through the holy spirit himself prompting them to true salvation.
I suppose this is supposed to head off a schism over the issue? Or counteract a schism in progress? Lots of luck.
A Very Laodicean decision - lukewarm - make a decision instead of trying to appease everyone.
They are NOT being exposed to Christ, in most cases it’s a false gospel.
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