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MegaSchism! 25% of United Methodist Churches Have Left Over Same-Sex Acceptance
Protestia ^ | December21, 2023 | staff

Posted on 12/21/2023 7:34:39 PM PST by Morgana

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To: Morgana

For shame. It should have been 90%.

Except, of course, that the UMC’s own Deep State manipulated the bishops, the convention resolutions, who got to speak at the conventions, the harassment of conservative pastors. and the appointment of leftist pastors to vulnerable congregations—then sent the conservative congregations a huge bill for what it would cost them to leave the apostate church. When it should certainly have been the ellgeebeeteebies’ call to leave the faithful alone and go start their own denomination, for which the faithful would have contributed funds.

As it is, the buildings their forefathers built and maintained are being held for ransom by the heretics.


21 posted on 12/22/2023 8:39:23 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: BipolarBob
Wouldn't that make UNITED Methodist Churches a misnomer?

The "United" word was added in 1968 due to a merger between the traditional Methodist Episcopal Church, and the Evangelical United Brethren Church.

22 posted on 12/22/2023 8:42:32 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: ConservativeMind
Methodists are just heretics.

Now they are. But that was not at all what its founder, John Wesley, intended.

23 posted on 12/22/2023 8:44:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican; BipolarBob
The Methodist Church and the Evangelical United Brethren Church — basically German Methodists going back to colonial days —merged in 1968.

The original Methodist Church was founded in England during the Reformation as an offshoot of the Anglican Church. Methodist evangelists came to America in the 1600s, long before the American Revolution. During colonial days and until well after the Civil War, the American Episcopalian Church was the largest U.S. denomination, and Methodist was second.

Even as late as the 1970s, the Methodists had many institutions all across the country—hospitals, retirement and nursing homes, seminaries and universities. You could be in Methodist company virtually most of the time, similarly to Catholicism or Judaism, if you grew up in the mid-to-late 20th century.

In the late 60s the seminaries went leftist or merged with "progressive" denominations, and over the next few decades, they have pushed the congregations ever more to the left. As a result, UMC has lost millions of members and all their non-theological institutional holdings.

I left after five generations of family. Many stayed because their parents or spouses were buried next to "their" local Methodist church. Others, as in every institution, aren't paying attention and were never fully convicted of the gospel.

The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but
the heart of the fool to the left.
—Ecclesiastes 10:2

24 posted on 12/22/2023 9:01:01 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Ping to post 24.


25 posted on 12/22/2023 9:01:55 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: cyclotic
There’s a huge upside...to those churches who left. They can practice biblical Christianity and not be forced to cave to the rainbow mafia.

Except that they are going to continue having women pastors. Death knell.

26 posted on 12/22/2023 9:05:51 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: TomEd
As Bill Clinton put it, "Drag a $100 bill through a trailer park ..."

That was James Carville, defending Clinton by trying to disdain either Clinton's rape accuser Paula White or his mistress Gennifer Flowers.

27 posted on 12/22/2023 9:09:56 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

I grew up in the UMC in southern Illinois and have been away from both for 35 years. I checked the conference website and noted that some of the larger congregations there have disaffiliated. The church my parents attended went independent. I think some of the smaller and rural congregations probably couldn’t afford to leave. I know the people down there and they are not theological liberals. I noticed that there was an unusually high number of clergy retirements this year as well.

The church is obviously in steep decline outside of disaffiliations. The UMC in my town in northern Indiana goes back 100 years. I have become acquainted with the pastor there and he tells me the average attendance is 10 people, mostly elderly. He is also the pastor of a church in a neighboring town, which is in a similar situation. My town is largely Catholic, but at one time the Methodists were able to draw people and put up a beautiful building and do something vital. If they are not proclaiming the gospel of life, then it should be no surprise that they are dying off.


28 posted on 12/22/2023 9:44:15 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
If they are not proclaiming the gospel of life, then it should be no surprise that they are dying off.

Amen to that!

Yes, some of my acquaintances in small churches are being billed extortionate amounts to keep their buildings, when they have only 25 in attendance. So it has to die. The left killed it, with the cooperation of the apostate pastors and Biblically illiterate congregants.

29 posted on 12/22/2023 10:51:00 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

The pattern continues: accept female pastors and acceptance of homosexuality is just a matter of time.


30 posted on 12/22/2023 5:31:28 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
accept female pastors and acceptance of homosexuality is just a matter of time.

100%. Finally found a church were the women are honored and very active, but the men are in charge. The preaching is biblically sound, all the elders and ushers and communion assistants are men, the property is kept up, the bills are paid—it reminds me of my childhood in the 50s. I am a retired businesswoman and a head of household; but this chuch does not offend me in the least because it is rightly ordered.

31 posted on 12/22/2023 7:06:30 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

I agree!


32 posted on 12/22/2023 7:10:22 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: steve86
“ Why only 25%?”

It may be 25% of the churches but I guarantee it’s much more than 25% of the actual Methodists who actually attend church and participate in the church.

33 posted on 12/23/2023 8:33:32 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Good.


34 posted on 12/23/2023 8:34:20 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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